This is the famous "Mitch Leary"

[Carlo Morpurgo]

"Tipsy MacStagger's Bar & Grill"

Now, if you'll start THINKING instead of begging like the dirt poor
immigrant you probably are, you'll figure it out.
-Leary-

I am wondering what the problem is with this guy
(if this is how he may be called). Hopefully
this is an isolated episode in this otherwise nice and interesting group.
By the way, isn't he supposed to be non-american as well? so I gather form
earlier messages claming to have found the true identity of this asshole, to
use mild language.


Carlo

[John]

Post by Carlo Morpurgo
I am wondering what the problem is with this guy
(if this is how he may be called). Hopefully
this is an isolated episode in this otherwise nice and interesting group.
By the way, isn't he supposed to be non-american as well? so I gather form
earlier messages claming to have found the true identity of this asshole, to
use mild language.

Wow, you've got quite a bee in your bonnet there, Carlo.

Just out of curiosity, why on earth would you allow to bother you so much the
words of someone you don't know and will, in all earthly likelihood, never meet?

Also, I don't think it's polite to call Mitch an asshole.

--John

[Carlo Morpurgo]

Post by John
Wow, you've got quite a bee in your bonnet there, Carlo.
Just out of curiosity, why on earth would you allow to bother you so much the
words of someone you don't know and will, in all earthly likelihood, never meet?

Well, sorry I dont know about you, but I do not like
to be insulted without replying. Makes no difference
whther or not I will ever meet this guy, come on...

Post by John
Also, I don't think it's polite to call Mitch an asshole.

neither do I. But he deserves to called this way,
in my opinion. carlo

Post by John
--John

[Mitch Leary]

Post by Carlo Morpurgo

Post by John
Wow, you've got quite a bee in your bonnet there, Carlo.
Just out of curiosity, why on earth would you allow to bother you so much

the

Post by John
words of someone you don't know and will, in all earthly likelihood, never

meet?
Well, sorry I dont know about you, but I do not like
to be insulted without replying. Makes no difference
whther or not I will ever meet this guy, come on...

Post by John
Also, I don't think it's polite to call Mitch an asshole.

neither do I. But he deserves to called this way,
in my opinion. carlo

Post by John
--John

Carlo's upset that he can't beg. borrow, steal, or photocopy a copy of
Finn Jon's most wonderful book on Invisible Elastic Loops. Carlo
likes to beg because that's what he's good at: "Please sir...may I
have a free copy. My family is poor and I must go now so I can allow
my father to wear the shoes to go to work...we only have the one pair
and 18 brothers and sisters, all very hungry. We all sleep in one
bed, only springs, no mattress. Oh, the pain. Please sir, may I have
the book for free?"

The answer from Leary the Asshole Tyrant, possessor of sacred books
and knowledge is still, and always will be...NO!!! Now get the hell
away from me before your infested, flee-ridden, diseased little
third-world carcass pisses me off and I have to taunt you a second
time.

I will however send you a free parting gift: a three foot piece of
rope so your mother can tie her legs together.


-Leary the Maniacal Tyrant-
~Posessor of Sacred Books & Knowledge~

[Ray Haddad]

Post by Mitch Leary
Carlo's upset that he can't beg. borrow, steal, or photocopy a copy of
Finn Jon's most wonderful book on Invisible Elastic Loops. Carlo
likes to beg because that's what he's good at: "Please sir...may I
have a free copy. My family is poor and I must go now so I can allow
my father to wear the shoes to go to work...we only have the one pair
and 18 brothers and sisters, all very hungry. We all sleep in one
bed, only springs, no mattress. Oh, the pain. Please sir, may I have
the book for free?"

Mitch! You're sounding like me now! Are you my long lost twin separated at
birth?

Post by Mitch Leary
The answer from Leary the Asshole Tyrant, possessor of sacred books
and knowledge is still, and always will be...NO!!! Now get the hell
away from me before your infested, flee-ridden, diseased little
third-world carcass pisses me off and I have to taunt you a second
time.
I will however send you a free parting gift: a three foot piece of
rope so your mother can tie her legs together.

I'd suggest that up until your comment about his heritage, your assessment was
spot on. Leave out the personal attack about his third world background and
you'd have been better off. And, leave his mother out of this one, too. Sheesh!
It's the holiday season, after all. Be nice.

Ray

[Mitch Leary]

Post by Carlo Morpurgo

Post by John
Wow, you've got quite a bee in your bonnet there, Carlo.
Just out of curiosity, why on earth would you allow to bother you so much

the

Post by John
words of someone you don't know and will, in all earthly likelihood, never

meet?
Well, sorry I dont know about you, but I do not like
to be insulted without replying. Makes no difference
whther or not I will ever meet this guy, come on...

Post by John
Also, I don't think it's polite to call Mitch an asshole.

neither do I. But he deserves to called this way,
in my opinion. carlo

Post by John
--John

My agenda is to get the kid so pissed off that he invents his own
material, goes to FISM and takes home first prize. We'll see what
kind of willpower my "powers of suggestion" has over him.

Hey Carlo...where do you imagine Finn Jon learned all this stuff about
invisible elastic thread??? Answer: He made it up.


-Leary-

[Carlo Morpurgo]

Post by Mitch Leary

Post by Carlo Morpurgo

Post by John
Wow, you've got quite a bee in your bonnet there, Carlo.
Just out of curiosity, why on earth would you allow to bother you so much

the

Post by John
words of someone you don't know and will, in all earthly likelihood, never

meet?
Well, sorry I dont know about you, but I do not like
to be insulted without replying. Makes no difference
whther or not I will ever meet this guy, come on...

Post by John
Also, I don't think it's polite to call Mitch an asshole.

neither do I. But he deserves to called this way,
in my opinion. carlo

Post by John
--John

My agenda is to get the kid so pissed off that he invents his own
material, goes to FISM and takes home first prize. We'll see what
kind of willpower my "powers of suggestion" has over him.
Hey Carlo...where do you imagine Finn Jon learned all this stuff about
invisible elastic thread??? Answer: He made it up.
-Leary-

why can't you have a normal conversation...I am ignoring
all the insults. I KNOW one must exercise his own creativity, believe me.
I've been doing it for years myself. But it's good to have some basis to
start out with. Explain the world why you own all these books.
Explain the world why you praise such and such booklet or video. Why
bother, just do everything form scratch. If I got intrigued by this book
about loops, it's because of YOU, moron. I was trusting your advice about
this book.
I am not begging anyone to get the thing for free. Nothing good comes for
free. You are making a lot of assumptions
about me and indeed know nothing about me. On the other hand, since you like
to be "engraved" into the google archive, I am beginning to know a lot about
you, and it sure ain't pretty.

Carlo

[John]

Post by Carlo Morpurgo
On the other hand, since you like
to be "engraved" into the google archive, I am beginning to know a lot about
you, and it sure ain't pretty.

The first pair of Polaroid sunglasses I remember getting my little hands on were
taken to pieces in about three seconds. I wanted to see if what I read was true.
I took one lens in one hand and the other lens in the other hand and brought the
lenses together.

I found if I twisted one lens everything got dark. But if I twisted it the other
way, things were clear.

Reading Google archives is a lot like that.

--John

[Carlo Morpurgo]

Post by John

Post by Carlo Morpurgo
On the other hand, since you like
to be "engraved" into the google archive, I am beginning to know a lot about
you, and it sure ain't pretty.

The first pair of Polaroid sunglasses I remember getting my little hands on were
taken to pieces in about three seconds. I wanted to see if what I read was true.
I took one lens in one hand and the other lens in the other hand and brought the
lenses together.
I found if I twisted one lens everything got dark. But if I twisted it the other
way, things were clear.
Reading Google archives is a lot like that.

sure - i am not that naive. everything needs to be taken with a grain of
salt. the reason why I looked is because HE is asking (or begging) us to do
so. and I learned a great deal from him and many other people (the "clear"
part) . but there are also several instances of really terrible statements
made by the same guy who also should not be forgotten or forgiven (the
"dark" part).

carlo

Post by John
--John

[bill Green]

Re: This is the famous "Mitch Leary"

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On the other hand, since you like
to be "engraved" into the google archive, I am beginning to know a lot
about you, and it sure ain't pretty.
The first pair of Polaroid sunglasses I remember getting my little hands
on were taken to pieces in about three seconds. I wanted to see if what
I read was true. I took one lens in one hand and the other lens in the
other hand and brought the lenses together.
I found if I twisted one lens everything got dark. But if I twisted it
the other way, things were clear.
Reading Google archives is a lot like that.
sure - i am not that naive. everything needs to be taken with a grain of
salt. the reason why I looked is because HE is asking (or begging) us to
do so. and I learned a great deal from him and many other people (the
"clear" part) . but there are also several instances of really terrible
statements made by the same guy who also should not be forgotten or
forgiven (the "dark" part).
=A0=A0carlo
--John
Ok i bite:) ok to know mich leary cool of school i tell everyone even
my nefu and niece and teens and childre and adults is mitch is like
a puzzle then bob scofieldmagician says yeah like a ENIGMA :)
no ofense to the guy thats up set with mitchleary. anways i let
everyone know all about everyone here out side cyber plasam as bob
scofield would say:)
i let everyone know that mitchleary and ray haded and troy and herbert
l becker and copperfield and myer and johnathen pendragon and
rjlacount and alex masked magician extc. really like to help us
nebies out even bob scofield who had not been domning sleight of
hand or buildillusions extc untill i sent him mitchleary input and
rah h and troy and others but mitchleary woke up a pro back in
the game:)
mitch and bob scfield grew up doing the same stuff wow and thats
why bob clicks with mitch leary coiol of school:)
he also likes that ray has become friends with mitch leary he was
hoping that would happen:)

OH and mention food and bob scfield magician tALK ABOUT ALL THE WAYS
to do a turkey that has more juice to make soft turkey:) bob
scofield is like a universalremote comtrol like mitch leary
science, food,bikes,motorcycle bikes, goverment, stealth, ion
propolsion, illusions, AREA51 info
paysents helping others out and sharing knowledge , read books
get on the inter net, star trek, star wars extc.
and his wife judy is astartreky fan:)
bob is a fan of the jackson 5
and as for me i like food:) puzzles, illusions , read books but i like
kinds with photos and drawings along with text:)
math number illusions, video taping and trick camera ideas also, and
the inter net
and waching illusion specials from the PENDRAGONS lance burton,
franz harry, doug henning, david blane, melinda first lady of magic ,
lewis da montoes, penn and teller, herbert lawrance becker val
masked magician and new masked magicains on fox from street masked
magician to the new masked magician on illusions, and bill bix bie
and harry blackstone, harry blackstonejr, and tina line heart,
prencess tenko, rebecka yen, ala chin, sigfrig and roy, david kot
kin aka david copperfield
harry houdini, amzing krekin, harry anderson specials and his nite court
speciuals too especally when he uses a gulatine to cut bulls head of
and max maven specials and vhs tape called mind games:)
and all the tv magic theme tv specials
even leave it to bever to the brady bunch and tv kermercials that
are magic themed:)
science of magic, animal magic extc.
eeven cartoons with magic princpials

to PBS edcation TV STAIONS like back stage with black stone
knock knock knock yes come in ah mr back stone ah john here was
playing with the leavating bord and now the floating girl is in the air
and we can not get her down? ohh ok be right there
wow just think SHE MIGHT GET A LITTLE AIR SICK WHA WHA WHA
on square one tv:)
THEN HE WAS ON 321 CONTACK
and Doug Hening on KAPTIAN KANGA ROO , and on the mupttet show
I LIKE HOW HEHEHE DOUG said i like rabbits too then the rabits say
aaaaaaaa you like rabbit stew lets get out of here :) hehehe

http://www.kidfat.org



http://community.webtv.net/logicube/Awebsitefullofnice

[Mitch Leary]

Post by John

Post by John

Post by Carlo Morpurgo
On the other hand, since you like
to be "engraved" into the google archive, I am beginning to know a lot

about

Post by John

Post by Carlo Morpurgo
you, and it sure ain't pretty.

The first pair of Polaroid sunglasses I remember getting my little hands

on were

Post by John
taken to pieces in about three seconds. I wanted to see if what I read was

true.

Post by John
I took one lens in one hand and the other lens in the other hand and

brought the

Post by John
lenses together.
I found if I twisted one lens everything got dark. But if I twisted it the

other

Post by John
way, things were clear.
Reading Google archives is a lot like that.

sure - i am not that naive. everything needs to be taken with a grain of
salt. the reason why I looked is because HE is asking (or begging) us to do
so. and I learned a great deal from him and many other people (the "clear"
part) . but there are also several instances of really terrible statements
made by the same guy who also should not be forgotten or forgiven (the
"dark" part).
carlo

Post by John
--John

OK Carlo, here's that magical piece of information you're looking for:
Why not contact Finn Jon himself and see if he'll sell you a
photocopied edition of his book? Now doesn't that make more sense
than trying to get me to commit an imternational crime and risk jail
and fines if the book were found out??? So how does one go about
contacting Finn Jon you say? Well, I know he's got a website, I've
been there. It's got a picture of his big ol' head on the front page
(he looks like the lion from the Wizard of Oz to me with all that
hair).


I don't have the website handy but I would bet you could find it
through a search engine, our good friend Ray Haddad, keeper of the
magician's e-mail addresses, might have it. It's amazing how he gets
ahold of them, it borders on real magic in itself.


I know my other post was downright mean, but I'm trying to get you to
say "To hell with magicians, I'll invent my own tricks with invisible
elastic loops." I'm trying to show you that you don't need this book
you're looking for, you don't need to beg for secrets. They're all
right there, between your ears, if only you'll take the time to look
for them. You can invent your own methods of defying gravity with
IET. If you'll just TAKE THE INITIATIVE and quit waiting around for
somebody to give it to you, you'll eventually figure out your own
tricks. All you have to do is ask the right questions of yourself.
First, make a list of effects you want to do, here's some examples:

-Float a playing card.
-Float a sponge ball.
-Float a match.
-Turn the page of a book without touching it.
-Make small objects on a table move.
-Figure out diffrent ways to connect IET to my body.
-Make a paper doll dance in my hand.

...you get the idea.


I invent my best tricks when I defy the laws of logic--take a piece of
information out of the endless cause and effect that makes up reality.
This is the magic formula for evry trick. Here's an example:

-I'm going to take a coin and place it in the other hand. Now, to
make it a magic trick I take away one step: the hands never come
together yet the coin appears in the other hand. I've removed one
step from the logical chain of events necessry for the coin to
logicaly travel from one hand to the other. That makes it magical,
defying cause and effect. Then, after you figure out which step
you're going to skip in logic to make it a magic trick (un-logical, if
thre is such a word), you now have to figure out how you're going to
do it. How is this coin going to get into the other hand? Maybe two
coins are involved, or you use a deceptive sleight-of-hand technique
to make it look like you placed the coin in one hand when it's really
in the other.


You can do this with practically anything:

1. Define what it is you wish to accomplish. Example: I want to walk
aross the room.

2. Remove a step in the logical sequence of events needed to make
this happen: I wish to travel from point A to point B without
traveling the distance in between.

3. The event occures. Now, how did you do it. I find it very
stimulating to tell myself its already been done by someone else, how
did he do it?


There's a book titled the TRICK BRAIN by Dariel Fitzkee that contains
all the methods by which all magic tricks work. Get a copy, make it
your bible of sacred knowledge, then begin to think about things.

Magic is the apparent defying of logic, nothing else.



-Leary-

[Ray Haddad]

Post by Mitch Leary
I don't have the website handy but I would bet you could find it
through a search engine, our good friend Ray Haddad, keeper of the
magician's e-mail addresses, might have it. It's amazing how he gets
ahold of them, it borders on real magic in itself.

How do I get them? Well, because I am their friend, Mitch. With all of those
years behind me, I'd be very surprised if you and I hadn't met somewhere in the
world of magic.

I've chosen to remain a background sort of magician not seeking the same
limelight as most here seem to. I prefer to be a gentle nudger and not a mover
and shaker in magic. But, anywhere you go in the community of magic, mention my
name and people will have something nice to say about me. I guarantee it.

Finn Jon's web site can be located by doing a search on "bubble formula" using
Google. Don't put his name in Google because it's not meta-tagged on his site
but that term above is. That's how Mr. Finn Jon remains so very private. When
you find his web site, you'll also find out more about Finn Jon's "other love."

Ray

[Ray Haddad]

Post by Ray Haddad

Post by Mitch Leary
I don't have the website handy but I would bet you could find it
through a search engine, our good friend Ray Haddad, keeper of the
magician's e-mail addresses, might have it. It's amazing how he gets
ahold of them, it borders on real magic in itself.

How do I get them? Well, because I am their friend, Mitch. With all of those
years behind me, I'd be very surprised if you and I hadn't met somewhere in the
world of magic.
I've chosen to remain a background sort of magician not seeking the same
limelight as most here seem to. I prefer to be a gentle nudger and not a mover
and shaker in magic. But, anywhere you go in the community of magic, mention my
name and people will have something nice to say about me. I guarantee it.
Finn Jon's web site can be located by doing a search on "bubble formula" using
Google. Don't put his name in Google because it's not meta-tagged on his site
but that term above is. That's how Mr. Finn Jon remains so very private. When
you find his web site, you'll also find out more about Finn Jon's "other love."

Ok. Here's Finn Jon's web site.

http://www.finnjon.no/

Enjoy!

Best,
Ray

[Carlo Morpurgo]

Post by Mitch Leary
Why not contact Finn Jon himself and see if he'll sell you a
photocopied edition of his book? Now doesn't that make more sense
than trying to get me to commit an imternational crime and risk jail
and fines if the book were found out??? So how does one go about
contacting Finn Jon you say? Well, I know he's got a website, I've
been there. It's got a picture of his big ol' head on the front page
(he looks like the lion from the Wizard of Oz to me with all that
hair).

Mitch, thanks for the hint. HOwever, I have told you in my very first
response
to your "mean message" that I already
had (before you told me) the brilliant idea of contacting
Finn jon through his website. I ALWAYS try the source first.
I am not as stupid as you think....
It seems to me that my only mistake is to have used the word "photocopy".
OK wrong choice of words. I AM
willing to pay OF COURSE, and if that is the only way to get the book
I can pay a photocopy of the book, which
can be legally obtained with the PERMISSION OF THE AUTHOR.
I am not a thief, I pay for quality. By the way, are you
now telling the world that you have never made a photocopy
of a single page of a book? I have a hard time believe it.

Post by Mitch Leary
I don't have the website handy but I would bet you could find it
through a search engine, our good friend Ray Haddad, keeper of the
magician's e-mail addresses, might have it. It's amazing how he gets
ahold of them, it borders on real magic in itself.
I know my other post was downright mean, but I'm trying to get you to
say "To hell with magicians, I'll invent my own tricks with invisible
elastic loops." I'm trying to show you that you don't need this book
you're looking for, you don't need to beg for secrets.

thanks for the suggestions. I think that as far as teaching, learning,
and creating I perhaps know a little bit myself. It's my daily
(I am a university math professor).
I know what you are saying, but, again,
you will be fooling yourself if you really believe
that all you know and created is just the product
of your pure self, there isn't such a thing. No one better
than Montaigne can summarize this thought:

"The bees pillage the flowers here and there but they make
honey of them which is all their own; it is no longer
thyme or marjolaine: so the pieces borrowed from others
he will transform and mix up into a work all his own."

- Montaigne, Essays (bk. I, ch. XXV)


Thanks for the other suggestions too. I feel like I had
to go through an "initiation" to be able to have
a pseudo-normal exchange of ideas.

Carlo

[Carlo Morpurgo]

Post by Carlo Morpurgo
"The bees pillage the flowers here and there but they make
honey of them which is all their own; it is no longer
thyme or marjolaine: so the pieces borrowed from others
he will transform and mix up into a work all his own."
- Montaigne, Essays (bk. I, ch. XXV)

before someone quickly jumps on me saying I cannot spell:

MARJORAM rather than marjolaine....you get the concept though, I hope.
carlo

[mrgoat]

Post by Carlo Morpurgo

Post by John
Wow, you've got quite a bee in your bonnet there, Carlo.
Just out of curiosity, why on earth would you allow to bother you so much

the

Post by John
words of someone you don't know and will, in all earthly likelihood, never

meet?
Well, sorry I dont know about you, but I do not like
to be insulted without replying. Makes no difference
whther or not I will ever meet this guy, come on...

Don't be a twat

Mitch is great and you are a stupid little boy

Post by Carlo Morpurgo

Post by John
Also, I don't think it's polite to call Mitch an asshole.

neither do I. But he deserves to called this way,
in my opinion. carlo

your opinion is wrong and worthless

go back to alt.iamatwat