Vanishing bird cage

[koandy]

Do anyone know about the "Pull" used by Tommy Wonder's vanishing bird cage?
I mean the name and brand of the pull or where can I find it?
Or any other suggest about the pull that;s good for vanishing bird cage?

Thanx..

[Tipsy MacStagger's Bar & Grill]

Now this is an excellent question. I wish more magicians-in-trainng
would ask questions like this in this group.

I got this piece of advice from John Pendragon: use a "bow sting" as the
pull cord for your Vanishing Birdcage. It's strong, dependable, and
won't break EVER.

I would advise you to buy the Vanishing Birdcage from your favorite
magic dealer. Then, if you don't care for the cord, change it out for
the one I mentioned.

If you just want to learn the principle and but don't have the money to
buy the Vanishing Birdcage, there is a pocket trick called Al Cohen's
"INCREDI-GO". Any magic dealer can get it for you for aroind $5.oo.
This is a very, very, valuable princile to know, ou can make all sorts
of things vanish under impossible circumstances.

Once you get INCREDI-GO and learn the underlying principle, then you can
make a bigger stronger model to vanish silks, coins, small objects, etc.
Get yourself a bow string or similar cord, then get a new leather dog
collar. This dog collar needs to be big enough to fit around your upper
arm bicep. One end of the cord is connected to it. The cord then goes
across your back and down the opposite sleeve and into your awaiting
hand. It's hard to explain without illustrations, but the way it works
is that when you straighten your arms the object on the end of the line
flies up your sleeve quick as a wink. In your case, the birdcage
collapses or folds up and goes up the sleeve. It's a great trick, but
it's not something you can do at the spur of the moment. It takes a few
moments to pull the line ot of the sleeve and connect it to the cage.
Most guys walk out on stage holding it between both hands, ready to go.
It's a great trick for MC's who want to perform a single trick at the
beginning to get everybodies attention.

If you've got the Tommy Wonder books you more than likely understand the
mechanics of the trick.


-Leary-

ps My personal favorites from those books are his Zombie Gimmick and
the shrinking deck. You don't know either of these tricks until you
posess these priceless books!

[b p]

Vanishing bird cage

Group: alt.magic.secrets Date: Fri, May 28, 2004, 3:33pm (EDT+12) From:
***@abc.com (koandy)
Vanishing bird cage Group: alt.magic.secrets Date: Fri, May 28,
2004, 3
:33pm (EDT+12) From: ***@abc.com (koandy)
Do anyone=A0know about=A0the "Pull" used by Tommy Wonder's vanishing
bird cage?
I mean the name and brand of the pull or=A0where can I find it?
Or any other suggest about the pull that;s good for vanishing bird cage?
=A0
Thanx.

Re: Vanishing bird cage

Group: alt.magic.secrets Date: Fri, May 28, 2004, 4:13am (EDT-3) From:
***@webtv.net (Tipsy=A0MacStagger's=A0Bar=A0&=A0Grill)
Now this is an excellent question. I wish more magicians-in-trainng
would ask questions like this in this group.
I got this piece of advice from John Pendragon: use a "bow sting" as the
pull cord for your Vanishing Birdcage. It's strong, dependable, and
won't break EVER.
I would advise you to buy the Vanishing Birdcage from your favorite
magic dealer. Then, if you don't care for the cord, change it out for
the one I mentioned.
If you just want to learn the principle and but don't have the money to
buy the Vanishing Birdcage, there is a pocket trick called Al Cohen's
"INCREDI-GO". Any magic dealer can get it for you for aroind $5.oo. This
is a very, very, valuable princile to know, ou can make all sorts of
things vanish under impossible circumstances.
Once you get INCREDI-GO and learn the underlying principle, then you can
make a bigger stronger model to vanish silks, coins, small objects, etc.
Get yourself a bow string or similar cord, then get a new leather dog
collar. This dog collar needs to be big enough to fit around your upper
arm bicep. One end of the cord is connected to it. The cord then goes
across your back and down the opposite sleeve and into your awaiting
hand. It's hard to explain without illustrations, but the way it works
is that when you straighten your arms the object on the end of the line
flies up your sleeve quick as a wink. In your case, the birdcage
collapses or folds up and goes up the sleeve. It's a great trick, but
it's not something you can do at the spur of the moment. It takes a few
moments to pull the line ot of the sleeve and connect it to the cage.
Most guys walk out on stage holding it between both hands, ready to go.
It's a great trick for MC's who want to perform a single trick at the
beginning to get everybodies attention.
If you've got the Tommy Wonder books you more than likely understand the
mechanics of the trick.
-Leary-
ps My personal favorites from those books are his Zombie Gimmick and the
shrinking deck. You don't know either of these tricks until you posess
these priceless books!



HEY cool mitch i gave my vanishing birdcage to david drew duncan
***@yahoo.com
for his Christmas present
i bought it from abbots magic company
don brandon showed me his vanishing birdcage and he has a neat way
of keeping it neat he puts it in a green drafting tube can
his wife joyce is very orgnized too she keeps donbrandon on his
toes:)
don levtates his wife joyce on super x levi board he kicks the
gaf and acts like he is steading the invisible wires idea cool:)


http://community.webtv.net/cooltobefat/illusions

[koandy]

Thanx..
Really helpful..

Post by Tipsy MacStagger's Bar & Grill
Now this is an excellent question. I wish more magicians-in-trainng
would ask questions like this in this group.
I got this piece of advice from John Pendragon: use a "bow sting" as the
pull cord for your Vanishing Birdcage. It's strong, dependable, and
won't break EVER.
I would advise you to buy the Vanishing Birdcage from your favorite
magic dealer. Then, if you don't care for the cord, change it out for
the one I mentioned.
If you just want to learn the principle and but don't have the money to
buy the Vanishing Birdcage, there is a pocket trick called Al Cohen's
"INCREDI-GO". Any magic dealer can get it for you for aroind $5.oo.
This is a very, very, valuable princile to know, ou can make all sorts
of things vanish under impossible circumstances.
Once you get INCREDI-GO and learn the underlying principle, then you can
make a bigger stronger model to vanish silks, coins, small objects, etc.
Get yourself a bow string or similar cord, then get a new leather dog
collar. This dog collar needs to be big enough to fit around your upper
arm bicep. One end of the cord is connected to it. The cord then goes
across your back and down the opposite sleeve and into your awaiting
hand. It's hard to explain without illustrations, but the way it works
is that when you straighten your arms the object on the end of the line
flies up your sleeve quick as a wink. In your case, the birdcage
collapses or folds up and goes up the sleeve. It's a great trick, but
it's not something you can do at the spur of the moment. It takes a few
moments to pull the line ot of the sleeve and connect it to the cage.
Most guys walk out on stage holding it between both hands, ready to go.
It's a great trick for MC's who want to perform a single trick at the
beginning to get everybodies attention.
If you've got the Tommy Wonder books you more than likely understand the
mechanics of the trick.
-Leary-
ps My personal favorites from those books are his Zombie Gimmick and
the shrinking deck. You don't know either of these tricks until you
posess these priceless books!

[UtherSwift]

Dear Group

The bow string is also waxed and that helps it glide through with less
friction. I recommend the Owen's cage. It looks solid and that's important.
I use an origami bird (folded paper, red) inside because it looks better then
the fake yellow birds that you find in Magic shops. If you use a realistic
looking fake, you run into the old problem of audience members thinking that
you killed a bird for the sake of a trick. The red (mylar, if you can find it)
origami bird reads well and has an artistic appearance. It's a basic fold that
most books on origami demonstrate. It's called the crane.

Here is a line I wrote that you are free to use;

"This is a canary cage. There use to be a real bird inside, but he bought a
condo."
The British might say "flat" instead of condo.


With Respect
Jonathan Pendragon

[Art]

You would think someone would come out with an improved cage by now. Say
twice the size... half for each sleave.... that fits together with pins
and holes until the magic moment.

Post by UtherSwift
Dear Group
The bow string is also waxed and that helps it glide through with less
friction. I recommend the Owen's cage. It looks solid and that's important.
I use an origami bird (folded paper, red) inside because it looks better then
the fake yellow birds that you find in Magic shops. If you use a realistic
looking fake, you run into the old problem of audience members thinking that
you killed a bird for the sake of a trick. The red (mylar, if you can find it)
origami bird reads well and has an artistic appearance. It's a basic fold that
most books on origami demonstrate. It's called the crane.
Here is a line I wrote that you are free to use;
"This is a canary cage. There use to be a real bird inside, but he bought a
condo."
The British might say "flat" instead of condo.
With Respect
Jonathan Pendragon

[UtherSwift]

Dear "Art"

The problem is dimensions. In the "vanished" configuration you have a lot to
deal with. You would have to redesign the entire cage which is what the cage
has already gone through at least once before. DeKolta's cage looked like a
football (American). His pull was very elaborate.
Check out page 78 of Peter Warlock's book "Buatier de Kolta, Genius of
Illusion." It's published by Mike Caveny's Magical Publications. It's great
book. The pain he suffered at the hands of those who stole his material is
illustrated in the letters reprinted in the book. A must read.

"Thanks" to the member who liked all the specials, I appreciate it. My
favorite is the Euro Disney special produced by John Fisher. Charlotte and I
worked 18 hour days for two weeks to get the whole special taped. The special
was shot in something like 8 languages and featured different guest magicians
for many of the countries in which it was released. The core of the show was
Arturo Brachetti, Blackstone and us. Everybody worked hard (cast and crew), I
am very proud of the result.

With Respect
JP

[b p]

cool johnathen pen dragon
hey i have that SPECIAL on vhs tape also and that motorcycle
illusion is up there with your jet ski illusion wow neat :)
and your sowrd basket and fire cage illusion is cool to on the magic
of disney I HAVE ON VHS tape hosted by hary anderson
and for the finle sigfrig and roy vanish the walt disney castle
before our very eyes
and the champions of magic
you did the fire cage to but that levi vanish combo with
fire cage blew me away and im still amazed thats one even in
slow motion i can not figure out

blackstone jr is very good in the illusion ideas also his horse
vanish and christmas tree vanish is goood ps gooood
is idea from E.T be beee go good eleiout then gerty says
you said B :) then E.T tals to eleiout and gertie saiys i taught
him how to talk now he can talk now.

Re:thanks pen dragon Vanishing bird cage

Group: alt.magic.secrets Date: Tue, Jun 8, 2004, 1:24pm From:
***@webtv.net (b=A0p)
hey johnthen i thought that was a orgami bird inside your cage cool
:) =A0 i liked also how you linked everones finger rings =A0 in the
audience and =A0 even the president had no clue
and =A0 he said and i thought i was cleaver:)
that was a cool tv special :)
and on PBS you done a cool =A0 =A0 million dollar mystery illusion AND
YOUR CLEARLY IMPOSIIBLE ON MAGICIANS FAVORITE MAGICIANS hosted by Harry
Anderson
Re: Vanishing bird cage
Group: alt.magic.secrets Date: Tue, Jun 8, 2004, 8:15am (EDT+4) From:
***@aol.com (UtherSwift)
Dear Group
The bow string is also waxed and that helps it glide through with less
friction. I recommend the Owen's cage. It looks solid and that's
important. I use an origami bird (folded paper, red) inside because it
looks better then the fake yellow birds that you find in Magic shops. If
you use a realistic looking fake, you run into the old problem of
audience members thinking that you killed a bird for the sake of a
trick. The red (mylar, if you can find it) origami bird reads well and
has an artistic appearance. It's a basic fold that most books on origami
demonstrate. It's called the crane.
Here is a line I wrote that you are free to use; "This is a canary cage.
There use to be a real bird inside, but he bought a condo."
The British might say "flat" instead of condo. With Respect
Jonathan Pendragon WHOS LIKE mitch leary =A0 full of illusion new ways
ideas:)
http://community.webtv.net/cooltobefat/illusions


http://community.webtv.net/cooltobefat/illusions

[b p]

hey johnthen i thought that was a orgami bird inside your cage cool
:) i liked also how you linked everones finger rings in the
audience and even the president had no clue
and he said and i thought i was cleaver:)
that was a cool tv special :)
and on PBS you done a cool million dollar mystery illusion
AND YOUR CLEARLY IMPOSIIBLE ON MAGICIANS FAVORITE MAGICIANS hosted by
Harry Anderson

Re: Vanishing bird cage

Group: alt.magic.secrets Date: Tue, Jun 8, 2004, 8:15am (EDT+4) From:
***@aol.com (UtherSwift)
Dear Group
The bow string is also waxed and that helps it glide through with less
friction. I recommend the Owen's cage. It looks solid and that's
important. I use an origami bird (folded paper, red) inside because it
looks better then the fake yellow birds that you find in Magic shops. If
you use a realistic looking fake, you run into the old problem of
audience members thinking that you killed a bird for the sake of a
trick. The red (mylar, if you can find it) origami bird reads well and
has an artistic appearance. It's a basic fold that most books on origami
demonstrate. It's called the crane.
Here is a line I wrote that you are free to use;
"This is a canary cage. There use to be a real bird inside, but he
bought a condo."
The British might say "flat" instead of condo.
With Respect
Jonathan Pendragon WHOS LIKE mitch leary full of illusion new ways
ideas:)


http://community.webtv.net/cooltobefat/illusions

[Ed Rhodes]

Post by UtherSwift
Dear Group
The bow string is also waxed and that helps it glide through with less
friction. I recommend the Owen's cage. It looks solid and that's important.
I use an origami bird (folded paper, red) inside because it looks better then
the fake yellow birds that you find in Magic shops. If you use a realistic
looking fake, you run into the old problem of audience members thinking that
you killed a bird for the sake of a trick. The red (mylar, if you can find it)
origami bird reads well and has an artistic appearance. It's a basic fold that
most books on origami demonstrate. It's called the crane.
Here is a line I wrote that you are free to use;
"This is a canary cage. There use to be a real bird inside, but he bought a
condo."
The British might say "flat" instead of condo.

Really nice, JP. I like the way you have something in the cage but avoid the
whole "bird got killed" aspect of the illusion. Going OT for a moment,
"flat" is the term for a rented apartment. I wonder if the British actually
have a specific term for a "condominium"?

[Will Tingle]

Post by Ed Rhodes
Really nice, JP. I like the way you have something in the cage but avoid the
whole "bird got killed" aspect of the illusion. Going OT for a moment,
"flat" is the term for a rented apartment. I wonder if the British actually
have a specific term for a "condominium"?

A "flat" doesn't have to be rented, its any self-contained multi-roomed
living space which shares a building with others.

I suppose the best equivalent of "condo" would be "water front
apartment"?

[b p]

cool input tingle but just had a funny idea:)
your email has room in it hehehehe
Group: alt.magic.secrets Date: Thu, Jun 10, 2004, 7:19pm (EDT+5) From:
***@YOUR.PANTSwillsbedroom.freeserve.co.uk (Will=A0Tingle)
In message <%vYxc.4417$***@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>, Ed Rhodes
<***@verizon.net> writes
Really nice, JP. I like the way you have something in the cage but avoid
the whole "bird got killed" aspect of the illusion. Going OT for a
moment, "flat" is the term for a rented apartment. I wonder if the
British actually have a specific term for a "condominium"?
A "flat" doesn't have to be rented, its any self-contained multi-roomed
living space which shares a building with others.
I suppose the best equivalent of "condo" would be "water front
apartment"?
tinlge sure does know his rooms lol:)


http://community.webtv.net/cooltobefat/illusions

[lensman1955]

Post by b p
cool input tingle but just had a funny idea:)
your email has room in it hehehehe
Really nice, JP. I like the way you have something in the cage but avoid
the whole "bird got killed" aspect of the illusion. Going OT for a
moment, "flat" is the term for a rented apartment. I wonder if the
British actually have a specific term for a "condominium"?
A "flat" doesn't have to be rented, its any self-contained multi-roomed
living space which shares a building with others.
I suppose the best equivalent of "condo" would be "water front
apartment"?
tinlge sure does know his rooms lol:)

No, we'd call those "river views" as in "6 Rms, Rv Vw" which was a
play about two people looking over a new apartment. A "condo" is an
apartment in which there is no real "landlord," the tenants buy the
apartment and answer to a "condo board" made up of the members of the
building.

[Will Tingle]

Post by lensman1955

Post by b p
cool input tingle but just had a funny idea:)
your email has room in it hehehehe
Really nice, JP. I like the way you have something in the cage but avoid
the whole "bird got killed" aspect of the illusion. Going OT for a
moment, "flat" is the term for a rented apartment. I wonder if the
British actually have a specific term for a "condominium"?
A "flat" doesn't have to be rented, its any self-contained multi-roomed
living space which shares a building with others.
I suppose the best equivalent of "condo" would be "water front
apartment"?
tinlge sure does know his rooms lol:)

No, we'd call those "river views" as in "6 Rms, Rv Vw" which was a
play about two people looking over a new apartment. A "condo" is an
apartment in which there is no real "landlord," the tenants buy the
apartment and answer to a "condo board" made up of the members of the
building.

Okay, I thought a condo was a luxury apartment (I now it doesn't
necessarily have to have a water front location - it's just that in the
UK "posh" flats usually do).

In that case we'd just call it a "flat" - but unfortunately, that
doesn't work with JPs patter - 'cause hen most people here "flat" they
think "cheap rented accommodation" (even though that isn't always the
case)

[UtherSwift]

posh
Port Out, Starboard Home

That's my favorite acronym.
JP

[Will Tingle]

Post by UtherSwift
posh
Port Out, Starboard Home

From
http://freeserve.football365.com/Fun_Games/MediaWatch/story_46162.shtml


Posh Off
Reviewing the Peterborough FC v Posh Spice battle first revealed by
Football365 yesterday, The Daily Express explains to its readers: “The
word posh is said to be an acronym for Port Out, Starboard Home once
printed on first class P&O tickets to India. It was thought to signify
that the port cabins were the coolest going, with starboard ones best
coming back.”

Just three problems with this story:

1) No-one has ever unearthed a P&O ticket with the phrase in question on
it.
2) P&O company archivists have long declared the story to be an urban
myth.
3) It’s therefore about as true as the line on the front of the Daily
Express which declares it to be ‘The World’s Greatest Newspaper’.

[UtherSwift]

Dear Will

It maybe a misconception? People assumed that the ticket existed or it showed
up in theater or novels.

I love word origins.

JP

[Ian Wragg]

Dear JP & Will

Found this as well:-

The story goes that the more well-to-do passengers travelling to and from
India used to have POSH written against their bookings, standing for 'Port
Out, Starboard Home' (indicating the more desirable cabins, on the shady
side of the ship). Unfortunately, this story did not make its appearance
until the 1930s, when the term had been in use for some twenty years, and
the word does not appear to have been recorded in the form 'P.O.S.H.', which
would be expected if it had originated as an abbreviation. Despite
exhaustive enquiries by the late Mr George Chowdharay-Best, researcher for
the OED, including interviews with former travellers and inspection of
shipping company documents, no supporting evidence has been found.



http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutwordorigins/posh



This was always the explaination I'd been told.



Ian

[Will Tingle]

Post by Ian Wragg
Dear JP & Will
Found this as well:-
The story goes that the more well-to-do passengers travelling to and from
India used to have POSH written against their bookings, standing for 'Port
Out, Starboard Home' (indicating the more desirable cabins, on the shady
side of the ship). Unfortunately, this story did not make its appearance
until the 1930s, when the term had been in use for some twenty years, and
the word does not appear to have been recorded in the form 'P.O.S.H.', which
would be expected if it had originated as an abbreviation. Despite
exhaustive enquiries by the late Mr George Chowdharay-Best, researcher for
the OED, including interviews with former travellers and inspection of
shipping company documents, no supporting evidence has been found.
http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutwordorigins/posh

that's better (I knew there was a more authoritative source that the one
I found out there somewhere, but I couldn't find the bloody thing)

[Will Tingle]

Post by UtherSwift
Dear Will
It maybe a misconception? People assumed that the ticket existed or it showed
up in theater or novels.

That's the funny thing: countless people are queued up ready to tell you
where POSH _didn't_ come from, but no-one seems to know where it _did_

Post by UtherSwift
I love word origins.

Me too; my current favourite is "point blank", which apparently dates
from the days of artillery shells; Bulls-eyes on practice targets of the
time where painted white (or "blanc" in French), and "Point Blank"
refers to a range so close one doesn't have to allow for the falling of
the shell; you can _point_ the cannon directly at the _blanc_.

I already knew that "Port Out Starboard Home" was supposed to be false,
but it took me ages to find a source to back me up when I wanted one. I
did however find this while searching, which looks interesting:

http://tinyurl.com/ywgax

Speaking of words (and not trying to put you on the spot here), I seem
to remember reading somewhere you were dyslexic? Is that true? (I only
ask, because I am dyslexic, and therefore like to keep a mental list of
successful dyslexic people to fire off when it crops up in conversation)

[UtherSwift]

Gentlemen

SNAFU? The expetive deleated if you please.

NEWS?

With Respect
JP

[Ian Wragg]

Dear Jp

Situation Normal All Fouled Up (polite form)

was the version I knew.

Ian

[Ian Wragg]

NEWS is a new 1 on me apart from North, East West South. I did find this
site though.

If you like acronyms, it's a good resource.

Ian

http://www.acronymfinder.com/

[Will Tingle]

Post by UtherSwift
Gentlemen
SNAFU? The expetive deleated if you please.

Situation Normal: All Fouled Up

Post by UtherSwift
NEWS?

As an acronym? - don't know.

As a word? - an old English word referring to "new things" i.e. "what's
the news?" - what new things are there?

[UtherSwift]

Gentlemen

You got me.

News; North, East, West, South.

I think that one is interesting because the word is so common and very few know
that it is an acronym.


Snafu;

You raised the exact point, I have never found a definitive source on the
original f word in the acronym. Most military people tell me that it's not
fouled, it's the other f word. And yet there has been such a broad use of the
word, it seems unlikely that this would have happened unless the word was
"fouled."

I love words and their origins. This seems a common trait among those who love
magic and myth. Tolkin and the borthers Grimm, both known for great works of
fantasy, were experts on language and it's history.

With Respect
JP

[Ian Wragg]

Dear JP

The guys that told me (also ex army) the word was definately not Fouled, I
used the cleaned up version as well here. The version I was told used the
stronger version.

Very similar to FUBAR.

Ian

[UtherSwift]

Dear Ian

My brother is retired military and he said the same thing.

FUBAR

I have heard it, I can't remember what it means.

With Respect
JP

[Ray Haddad]

Post by UtherSwift
Dear Ian
My brother is retired military and he said the same thing.
FUBAR
I have heard it, I can't remember what it means.

Fouled Up Beyond All Recognition. The first word can be changed for a more
extreme meaning but like you, I prefer to remain free of all profanity in my
posts.

Best,
Ray

I have met the enemy, the gods of SPAM, and I have triumphed.

[Ian Wragg]

Dear JP

FUBAR

F*&^%d
Up
Beyond
All
Recognition



We could now start a list of acronyms from people on the backs of envelopes.
SWALK, FISH & CHIPS, BURMA, HOLLAND etc.


Ian

[b p]

hey thats aswome jp!:)
i like the tv cartoon and record player of the
witch,thelion,andwardrob, in 1970s

its like a time portal idea
or time machine

i like ascifi tv shows andmovies also.
like Vthe movie into tv seris andsoon new version is going to be on
NBC, and jason star coman, and land of the lost older version, but the
new versions ok:)
all kroft super shows and soon a brand new movie version
lids vill with the genii, with charls nelson rally as the evil
magician, who also on the tv version of ghost of mrs mer
the movie version is good too:)
logans run, buckrogers, battle star glaitica, star wars, and the
movie into tv seris PROJECT U.F.O.
SPIDER MAN CBS
movie to tv seris AND on PBS on eletric company version, plus the many
cartoons of spider man and now the cool movie s of spider man are
breakin all new ground wow! :)
Wonder Woman movie to tv seris
andsoon a brand new movie
OF WONDER WOMAN,
AND a brand new GREATEST AMERICAN HERO MOVIE
the oringal version was neat o cool:)

Shazam!:) KAPTIAN MARVEL,
oh Mighty Icess
Evil Kenivel plus his MOVIE neat stuff:)
planet of the apes movies plus the new movie version was a neat
concept:)
The six million dollar man, bionck WOMAN with dog Max WHOS ALSO bionck,
then MOVIE with son whos also bionc
pink panther movies, and CHOMPS DOG DECTIVE movie, and lassie tv
shos and carttoon version called lassi and the rescue rangers
BAT MAN Movie TO TV SERIS with Robin then LATER bat girl POPED IN
Marry POPINS, chitty chitty bang bang,
willie wonka and the choclate factory plus sooon a brand new movie
version:)
Big JOHN little john, big foot and wild boy, dr shrinker, electro
woman and dino girl, lost sauser, lost in space, the new version i
have not quite watched all the way yet.

Re: tingleRe: Vanishing bird cage

Group: alt.magic.secrets Date: Thu, Jun 17, 2004, 10:59am (EDT+4) From:
***@aol.com (UtherSwift)
Gentlemen
You got me.
News; North, East, West, South.
I think that one is interesting because the word is so common and very
few know that it is an acronym.
Snafu;
You raised the exact point, I have never found a definitive source on
the original f word in the acronym. Most military people tell me that
it's not fouled, it's the other f word. And yet there has been such a
broad use of the word, it seems unlikely that this would have happened
unless the word was "fouled."
I love words and their origins. This seems a common trait among those
who love magic and myth. Tolkin and the borthers Grimm, both known for
great works of fantasy, were experts on language and it's history.
With Respect
JP who likes cool scfi stuff also
weight gain comic books of super heroes gettin fat:)
Weight Gain Comic Books
http://dimensionsmagazine.com/Weight_Room/art/panels.html
70s Children's TV
http://dt.prohosting.com/70s/childtv/childtv.html Changed:12:34 PM on
Thursday, June 17, 2004
Fat Kid Stories
http://www.minimax.esmartkid.com/

http://www.kidfat.us.tf


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[B P]

lol hehehehehehe
river views is that like land of the lost on koft super show
AAAAAAAA deep be low to the land of the lost roar run will
and holly run roar run run to the land of the lost
then t rex looks at tv and roars
Re: tingleRe: Vanishing bird cage

Group: alt.magic.secrets Date: Fri, Jun 11, 2004, 6:54pm (EDT-3) From:
***@hotmail.com (lensman1955)
***@webtv.net (b p) wrote in message news:<19591-40C937BD-***@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net>...
cool input tingle =A0 but just had a funny idea:) your email has room in
it hehehehe
Group: alt.magic.secrets Date: Thu, Jun 10, 2004, 7:19pm (EDT+5) From:
***@YOUR.PANTSwillsbedroom.freeserve.co.uk (Will Tingle) In message
<%vYxc.4417$***@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>, Ed Rhodes
<***@verizon.net> writes
Really nice, JP. I like the way you have something in the cage but avoid
the whole "bird got killed" aspect of the illusion. Going OT for a
moment, "flat" is the term for a rented apartment. I wonder if the
British actually have a specific term for a "condominium"? A "flat"
doesn't have to be rented, its any self-contained multi-roomed living
space which shares a building with others. I suppose the best equivalent
of "condo" would be "water front apartment"?
tinlge sure does know his rooms lol:)
No, we'd call those "river views" as in "6 Rms, Rv Vw" which was a play
about two people looking over a new apartment. A "condo" is an apartment
in which there is no real "landlord," the tenants buy the apartment and
answer to a "condo board" made up of the members of the building.

[lensman1955]

Post by B P
lol hehehehehehe
river views is that like land of the lost on koft super show
AAAAAAAA deep be low to the land of the lost roar run will
and holly run roar run run to the land of the lost
then t rex looks at tv and roars

I hated that show. I did love the fact that when they had to change
actors, they actually had the "father" make it home while the kids
"uncle" fell into "another" black hole to end up there!

[b p]

yeah thru parimid idea the father got back and i forget how the
ungle got to the land of the lost?
but what i like about land of the lost they used what they know to
show other cave folks and dinasauers and enock the younger slee
stak and the older slee stak are afraide of bright lights thats
why the attack at nite and not day time and using diferent
clour crystales to start fire or change weather patterns or
invisible force field wall barrier or using misdiection or use
as a time machine
but the new land of the lost they found the land of the lost
thru earth quake driving inSUV and ending up in land of the lost
and they allways magically had every thing they needed in the SUV
like a GENNI IN A BOTTLE IDEA like sun glases and video camera
that wasnt inSUV BEFORE? where all that high teck come from each week?

Re: lens /tingleRe: Vanishing bird cage

Group: alt.magic.secrets Date: Thu, Jun 24, 2004, 3:23am (EDT-3) From:
***@hotmail.com (lensman1955)
***@webtv.net (B P) wrote in message news:<24410-40D9DE7C-***@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net>...
lol hehehehehehe
=A0=A0river views is that like land of the lost on koft super show
AAAAAAAA =A0 deep be low to the land of the lost =A0 =A0 roar =A0 run
will and holly run =A0 =A0 roar =A0 =A0 run run =A0 =A0 =A0 to the land
of the lost then =A0 t rex =A0 looks at tv and roars
I hated that show. I did love the fact that when they had to change
actors, they actually had the "father" make it home while the kids
"uncle" fell into "another" black hole to end up there!


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[Ed Rhodes]

"b p" <***@webtv.net> wrote in message news:4302-40DAFF5E-***@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net...
yeah thru parimid idea the father got back and i forget how the
ungle got to the land of the lost?

As far as I understood it, another black hole opened up in his back yard and
he fell in. (Maybe this family was cursed!)

but what i like about land of the lost they used what they know to
show other cave folks and dinasauers and enock the younger slee
stak and the older slee stak are afraide of bright lights thats
why the attack at nite and not day time and using diferent
clour crystales to start fire or change weather patterns or
invisible force field wall barrier or using misdiection or use
as a time machine
but the new land of the lost they found the land of the lost
thru earth quake driving inSUV and ending up in land of the lost
and they allways magically had every thing they needed in the SUV
like a GENNI IN A BOTTLE IDEA like sun glases and video camera
that wasnt inSUV BEFORE? where all that high teck come from each week?

Unless they said one week; "Gee, I wish we'd brought a <technobabble
gadget>" and then showed one another week, we have to assume anything they
pull out of the SUV was in there all along, just not used until then.

[b p]

ohhhhh cool yea thats good opservation ((Ed)):)
yeah they musta ran into bad luck slip rock
and goood THINKING about stuff inSUV it musta was hiding in
secret pockets in SUV VEHICKLE:)
i nevver thought of it that way
cool

Re: yep lens :)OTRe: Vanishing bird cage

Group: alt.magic.secrets Date: Fri, Jun 25, 2004, 3:15am (EDT+4) From:
***@verizon.net (Ed=A0Rhodes)
"b p" <***@webtv.net> wrote in message news:4302-40DAFF5E-***@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net... yeah thru parimid
idea =A0 the father got back and i forget how the ungle got to the land
of the lost?
As far as I understood it, another black hole opened up in his back yard
and he fell in. (Maybe this family was cursed!)
but what i like about land of the lost they used what they know to show
other cave folks and dinasauers and enock the younger slee stak =A0 =A0
and the older slee stak =A0 are afraide of bright lights thats why the
attack at nite and not day time =A0 =A0 =A0 and using diferent clour
crystales =A0 to start fire or change weather patterns or invisible
force field wall barrier =A0 or =A0 using misdiection =A0 or use as a
time machine
but the new land of the lost =A0 =A0 they found the land of the lost
thru earth quake =A0 driving inSUV and ending up in land of the lost and
they allways magically had =A0 every thing they needed in the SUV like a
GENNI IN A BOTTLE IDEA =A0 =A0 like sun glases and video camera that
wasnt inSUV BEFORE? where all that high teck come from each week?
Unless they said one week; "Gee, I wish we'd brought a <technobabble
gadget>" and then showed one another week, we have to assume anything
they pull out of the SUV was in there all along, just not used until
then.

and on carttoon net work the booma rang channel not the
new cartoon network with all new cartton shows but on the booma rang
cartoon net work chanel the valley of the lost dinsauers is
simualr but they have a dog:)
i wonder who thought of this idea first?
soon V onNBC new series
ive been wating for this:)
i knew more was coming

spiderman/wonderwoman/hulk
fan

Re: yep lens :)OTRe: Vanishing bird cage

Group: alt.magic.secrets Date: Fri, Jun 25, 2004, 3:15am (EDT+4) From:
***@verizon.net (Ed=A0Rhodes)
"b p" <***@webtv.net> wrote in message news:4302-40DAFF5E-***@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net... yeah thru parimid
idea =A0 the father got back and i forget how the ungle got to the land
of the lost?
As far as I understood it, another black hole opened up in his back yard
and he fell in. (Maybe this family was cursed!)
but what i like about land of the lost they used what they know to show
other cave folks and dinasauers and enock the younger slee stak =A0 =A0
and the older slee stak =A0 are afraide of bright lights thats why the
attack at nite and not day time =A0 =A0 =A0 and using diferent clour
crystales =A0 to start fire or change weather patterns or invisible
force field wall barrier =A0 or =A0 using misdiection =A0 or use as a
time machine
but the new land of the lost =A0 =A0 they found the land of the lost
thru earth quake =A0 driving inSUV and ending up in land of the lost and
they allways magically had =A0 every thing they needed in the SUV like a
GENNI IN A BOTTLE IDEA =A0 =A0 like sun glases and video camera that
wasnt inSUV BEFORE? where all that high teck come from each week?
Unless they said one week; "Gee, I wish we'd brought a <technobabble
gadget>" and then showed one another week, we have to assume anything
they pull out of the SUV was in there all along, just not used until
then.


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[lensman1955]

Post by b p
ohhhhh cool yea thats good opservation ((Ed)):)
yeah they musta ran into bad luck slip rock
and goood THINKING about stuff inSUV it musta was hiding in
secret pockets in SUV VEHICKLE:)
i nevver thought of it that way
cool

Not necessarily "secret pockets" (although they design SUVs with all
sorts of hidden compartments these days.) It's just that we never get
a "guided tour" of the SUV so we have no idea what's actually in
there!

[b p]

ohhhhhh
thanks ((lens))
now it makes sense not money cents hehehe
but brain sense :)

Re: OHH thanks ((ED:)))OTRe: Vanishing bird cage

Group: alt.magic.secrets Date: Sat, Jun 26, 2004, 8:48am (EDT-3) From:
***@hotmail.com (lensman1955)
***@webtv.net (b p) wrote in message news:<4303-40DC3AD0-***@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net>...
ohhhhh cool yea thats good opservation ((Ed)):) yeah they musta ran into
bad luck slip rock
and goood THINKING =A0 about stuff inSUV =A0 =A0 it musta was hiding in
secret pockets in SUV VEHICKLE:)
i nevver thought of it that way
cool
Not necessarily "secret pockets" (although they design SUVs with all
sorts of hidden compartments these days.) It's just that we never get a
"guided tour" of the SUV so we have no idea what's actually in there!


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[UtherSwift]

Dear Will

That sounds funnier. Use that line.

With Respect
Jonathan Pendragon

[Jack Poulter]

Going OT for a moment, "flat" is the term for a rented apartment.
I wonder if the British actually have a specific term for a

"condominium"?

I think it is "French Letter". ;-)

J.