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Bellucciello Posted: Jun 7 2007, 11:00 AM
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I've 2 questions about Lance.
First:Where can I find a video about B2 stealth disappearing illusion?
Second:Where the birds come from in this famous video??? here's the
link
Thank you
Fabio
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I don't know about the vid you asked for.
The doves come from many places... depending on the particular
production..
some from pockets in his jacket, some from his sleeves...
Do some reading or watch some video. Tony Clark has extensive
information, as does "Ice" McDonald and a few others...
Here is a starting place to research this, if you're interested.
http://www.dennymagic.com/cgi-bin/hazel.cg...EARCH_SPEC=dove
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Hey Fabio, Lance is one of the few traditionalist left in magic if
you ever get out to Vegas and want to see magic the way it might have
been performed say fifty years ago, check him out. As far as how his
magic is accomplished if you check out older books on the subject you
will probably find many of the effects he dose.
One of the best works I have seen on dove magic is a booklet called TV
dove classics. I got mine form a magic shop years ago and it cost
about $5 But for what you get it's well worth it. It shows not only
how to make your own dove harnesses and hook ups but even the
invisible dove harness and dove from news paper is explained. A really
good value.
Hope that helps and welcome to the forum.
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another great source of information is Ian Adairs encyclopedias of
Dove Magic
when its done well it is truly a beautiful form of magic and so
graceful..
i suggest looking on youtube for any vids of the great and graceful
Channing Pollock
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Ok Ok,thank you for all helps...but can someone explain me EXACTLY
step by step where the doves come from?
For exaple,first about gloves etc. etc
Thank you
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Well I have Ice mcdonalds lecture video on doves and his invisible
harness, I could take some pics if you want. Basically one of the ways
is you have a pocket/sleeve type thing sewn into your jacket pocket.
For that production there is two ways the harness and invisible
harness, the regular is almost like a little bag it fits in and the
invisible is like a little vest almost hidden by the feathers. The
difference aside of the fact of the design is that classic harness you
need something to cover it to produce(newspaper, silk etc) and
invisible enables you to make it appear out of thin air with no cover.
Ahhh almost forgot both harnesses have a little loop of fish line
attached to it. SO lets backtrack a little, Put the harness on your
dove and slip it in your pocket Now you want the fishing line to stick
out of your jacket a little, some like to have something there to hold
it in place but its not neccessary but it makes it a whole lot easier.
Basically your set, depending on which you have you come out stick
your thumb in the loop and pull out. If your using classic youll pull
out and hide it in the cover u have and open the bag revealing the
bird. If its the invisble you can do barehand production or with
cards, both are limited by your imagination. Hope you guys understoof
that lol
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yeah, closeup, I think some pics would be tremendous... so few people
have actually seen those things and how they are loaded...
hehe... I remember when you bought that Ice McD and harness at
Denny's ...
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ice keneric mdc donalds at seen live at the wells theater
hes cool he does geric stage illusions to vanish and reappear him slf
or his crew or girl asstatants too usuning big plungers to hold board
togeather and masth cloth as curtain idea:)
and top secrets of dove magic and cherviz excylopida of doves magic i
have is neat also:)
i have top secrets of stage illusion book to and encypoidi of
suspensions and lavatations thick red book to by micky hades ediited
by lewis arm strong
i think lewis:)
i had paul osborn illusion plan books but a kid needit it so i gave
them to him he sad thanks bill page dont worry i will never for get
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your welcome friend glad to help:)
i also have ran wood burry illusion plan two books and vhs tape of
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plus ralf adams bok and vhs tape of stage illusions even has a cool
yound ((johathen pendragon:)) illusion havin fun doing illusion with
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and a forword by black stone jr
BP-had to edit your post as it had a lot of info not relevant to this
topic-regards Pae
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text b2 stealth bomber cool stage illusionist magician lance burton
uses lazy susan tuntable likecool illuionist stage magician uses to
mae staue of liberty vanish and reappear at nite time but lance proved
you are able to use same idea principal to do in day time ideas too:)
way to think lance:)
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Lances B2 Stealth Vanish!
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Subject: Secret to Lances B2 Stealth Vanish!
its the same idea as the Staue of LIBERY Vanish and the
Masked Magician Valintino Tank Vanish! they move to a nother
location that looks like the same area you just saw before they
closed
the 2 door shields but if you dont look at Lance Burton
and just look at the platform he is on you are able to see
camera movment and also scens it was at the Top SECRET Base
in Nevada Desert there was squarelines on the tarmac run way
in broad day light and th white corvete CAR of LANCES also there
but after the vanish B2 Stealth Bomber was Gone! but so was
the square strips on the tarmac run way and also as the camera
pans over lance and over the top of platform shelid over to he far
right of your tv Screen you are able to see the Very TIP of the
Wing OF the B2 sTEALTH bomber so the empty space
with now B2 bOMBER and no square lines on run way plus the
miltary men and woman just move and trucks also as the 2 door sields
close they moved over to theemty area that looks the same place
where the B2 bomber once sat and plus have a duplicate White Corvete
there for Lance to drive around in the Emty space to show that the
Stealth Jet its really gone:) no mirrors or realistick card board
photos there ps. on his on THe ROAD SPECIAL when he made his
Tour Bus apeppear Magically in the Nevada Desert he used that idea
like Franz Harry with realtistic card board photos of Back Ground
Scenry.
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tanks ((pae))
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((tanks KC andpae:)))
on the same idea like the cool fox tv channe of all 6 cool stage
illusion ideas tv special seris cal breaking the magicians cod
magician biggest secrets
and the 5 special aid he is a pro and he will be back andstreet masked
magician showing how close up stuff is done
and abc secrets and abc more secrets reaveled by
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and two masked magicians showed thin model sawing and one way to float
a lady on board
and on how they do that cool franz harary shoed how to make a mini
yellow sumarine appear on stage
and robert gullup shoed how to do escapes plus another esacpe artise i
forget his nae had his own tv special showng how he did all of his
escape stunt ideas:))
bac too secrets of wreslering reaveled on NBC the same guy on fox for
masked magician helped on NBC FOR WRESLING SECRETS REAVELED
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bill page <***@msn.com> has sent you the following web
link:
hmm i thought the title was gonna be the christian movie called
time machine oops just remmbered its called
time changer
with actor that plays on tv seris called love boat
captain stubing:)
he invents a time machine
and needs t send a nother guy who will right the wrongs doings to know
foul langauge then after thats done when he tryies to send ingjames
bible into a certain ime in the future it wont work hetries again and
again and again it lets you reailze that time doesnt exzest in those
time zones areas
it must mean the rapture has taken place
Bill-had to edit a long post but left the above that is rlevant to
discussion
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Effect: Magi goes into the audience and finds any spec or let's the
audience do so. (Free choice) They get someone taller than them
though. Both the magi and spec come back on stage and the magi tells
the spec he/she is about to help with an experiment. Magi tells the
spec that they are about to be the first person to feel an Invisible
Touch. But of course the spec is told they are not aloud to see it
(hence invisible). The magi blindfolds the spec and instructs him/her
to hold both their arms straight up as high as possible. Magi picks up
a sheet and steps behind the spec. The audience can see the magi is
shorter and standing behind the spec. The magi puts the sheet in front
of spec and reaches around with both hands to hold it. The magi then
pulls the sheet up but not high enough to where the specs hands and
part of their arms can't be seen. The magi then pulls the sheet back
down and is now in front of the spec. He/she asks the spec if they
felt anything. They say no and you say thank you and have them remove
the blindfold. The audience has just seen you melt right through the
spec. Magi thanks the spec for their help and they take their seat and
the magi takes the applause.
Method/Prep: The secret to this is real simple. You need a sheet that
is not see through and it needs to be about 6 to 6 1/2 feet tall and
about 4 feet wide. More if you need it. You need to sew a pvc pipe
into the top of the sheet. You need to get two magnets that hold
pretty well. Attach one to the right side of the pipe where you hold
it. You now need to buy a Third Hand Gimmick. If you don't know what
it is, it is a fake hand. Now attach the other magnet to the inside of
the third hand gimmick. Now get a simple piece of dark black fabric or
a regular blindfold like they have for sleeping. That's all the prep
needed. Simple huh.
Performance: Sometime during the show you put the third hand in your
pocket. When you are ready for this just make sure the stage hands get
the right sheet. Go into the audience and choose someone taller than
you, maybe 6 inches taller will do. Bring them back to the stage and
tell them about invisible touch. Bring out a blindfold and make sure
it is on right so they can't see. Put your hands in your pockets
(getting the gimmick on your hand) and ask the spec how many fingers
are you holding up. They should say none or I don't know unless they
can see. This is just a running joke for the quickest misdirection.
Now go and grab the sheet and let it unfold and show both sides. Ask
the spec to raise their arms straight up in the air and while they are
doing this, you will be holding the sheet in your right hand which has
the gimmick on it and by holding it here you have let the magnets
connect. Now go right up behind the spec. Reach around in front of
them with the sheet and take hold with your left hand as well. Now,
lift up the sheet and let go with the right hand. You are now going to
move around to the left of them and in to the front. Now reach back
with the right hand and move the sheet away quickly to the right. Take
the sheet in the right hand and roll it up around your arm a little
and toss it down with the gimmick in it. It will have appeared that
you melted through the spec. You ask the spec to now lower their arms
and take the blindfold off. You now ask them if they felt anything.
They should say no and you say me neither. You now thank them and have
them take their seat and you take your applause.
Afterthoughts: The third hand gimmick has so many uses. Mostly you see
it used for walking through a mirror, barb wire, and now people. You
can actually get a set of the right and left hand on ebay for about
$14 plus $5 for shipping. You can easily get a sheet from a thrift
shop or get your own fabric for around $5. And a piece of pvc for
about $2. Total this illusion should cost around $25 or less depending
on where you shop. Hope you like it.
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Great melting through a person tutorial. This is something anyone can
build into their act for a small budget and some larger investment in
practice time of course
Would people see movement at the side of the sheet when you go round
them, or is there enough space? I didn't quite get that bit...
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QUOTE (MagicTammi @ Jun 26 2007, 07:19 PM)
Would people see movement at the side of the sheet when you go round
them, or is there enough space? I didn't quite get that bit...
OK Tammi great question! Now let me answer it to my best: 1.The
easiest way to explain this is, take your legs and spread them as far
apart as comfortable to you. Now get a sheet that fits that length
otherwise stick with the four to five foot.
2. If the sheet fits as I have explained and you practice it enough
there will be no movement when you go from the back to the front so
long as you watch your angles. This is for a stage so you should by
practicing know your sight lines. Close up is completely different,
you need to have more audience control.
Thanks Zaw12: This is meant for people who want to learn some new
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Ah I think I get this now. They hold the sheet up in front of them,
but I think they would have to hold the sheet a little way off their
body, say 1.5 to 2 feet because you need to move between them and the
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Tammi, I think you have it right. If you mean the magi for they, then
yes. When you hold the sheet in front of them you are wanting to wrap
your arms all the way around them. With someone not to monstrous you
should be able to hold the sheet about 1 1/2 feet or more in front of
them. It is plenty of room for you to go around. If you need anything
else PM me.
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Is the 3rd Hand the gimmick for Andrew Mayne's Gutbuster? I was just
on his site, and one of the versions says it requires a gimmick, or
maybe just a body shell...
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No the 3rd hand gimmick is not used for Gutbuster.
I think somewhere else on the site if you do a search you should find
something on the Gutbuster though. I would tell you more but I do not
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see this thread for the exact same effect, only it's walking through a
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for third hand if your aint got one. Print out a high resolution photo
of your hand as it would appear in the illusion. Then cut it out and
stick it to the dowel.
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House has an idea there... for stage, even a crude hand carved out of
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or use trp doors on stage
hey dc walkig thru great wall of china uses a third hand and his many
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I've 2 questions about Lance.
First:Where can I find a video about B2 stealth disappearing illusion?
Second:Where the birds come from in this famous video??? here's the
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I don't know about the vid you asked for.
The doves come from many places... depending on the particular
production..
some from pockets in his jacket, some from his sleeves...
Do some reading or watch some video. Tony Clark has extensive
information, as does "Ice" McDonald and a few others...
Here is a starting place to research this, if you're interested.
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Hey Fabio, Lance is one of the few traditionalist left in magic if
you ever get out to Vegas and want to see magic the way it might have
been performed say fifty years ago, check him out. As far as how his
magic is accomplished if you check out older books on the subject you
will probably find many of the effects he dose.
One of the best works I have seen on dove magic is a booklet called TV
dove classics. I got mine form a magic shop years ago and it cost
about $5 But for what you get it's well worth it. It shows not only
how to make your own dove harnesses and hook ups but even the
invisible dove harness and dove from news paper is explained. A really
good value.
Hope that helps and welcome to the forum.
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another great source of information is Ian Adairs encyclopedias of
Dove Magic
when its done well it is truly a beautiful form of magic and so
graceful..
i suggest looking on youtube for any vids of the great and graceful
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Ok Ok,thank you for all helps...but can someone explain me EXACTLY
step by step where the doves come from?
For exaple,first about gloves etc. etc
Thank you
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Well I have Ice mcdonalds lecture video on doves and his invisible
harness, I could take some pics if you want. Basically one of the ways
is you have a pocket/sleeve type thing sewn into your jacket pocket.
For that production there is two ways the harness and invisible
harness, the regular is almost like a little bag it fits in and the
invisible is like a little vest almost hidden by the feathers. The
difference aside of the fact of the design is that classic harness you
need something to cover it to produce(newspaper, silk etc) and
invisible enables you to make it appear out of thin air with no cover.
Ahhh almost forgot both harnesses have a little loop of fish line
attached to it. SO lets backtrack a little, Put the harness on your
dove and slip it in your pocket Now you want the fishing line to stick
out of your jacket a little, some like to have something there to hold
it in place but its not neccessary but it makes it a whole lot easier.
Basically your set, depending on which you have you come out stick
your thumb in the loop and pull out. If your using classic youll pull
out and hide it in the cover u have and open the bag revealing the
bird. If its the invisble you can do barehand production or with
cards, both are limited by your imagination. Hope you guys understoof
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yeah, closeup, I think some pics would be tremendous... so few people
have actually seen those things and how they are loaded...
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ice keneric mdc donalds at seen live at the wells theater
hes cool he does geric stage illusions to vanish and reappear him slf
or his crew or girl asstatants too usuning big plungers to hold board
togeather and masth cloth as curtain idea:)
and top secrets of dove magic and cherviz excylopida of doves magic i
have is neat also:)
i have top secrets of stage illusion book to and encypoidi of
suspensions and lavatations thick red book to by micky hades ediited
by lewis arm strong
i think lewis:)
i had paul osborn illusion plan books but a kid needit it so i gave
them to him he sad thanks bill page dont worry i will never for get
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your welcome friend glad to help:)
i also have ran wood burry illusion plan two books and vhs tape of
cool special iluion secrets
plus ralf adams bok and vhs tape of stage illusions even has a cool
yound ((johathen pendragon:)) illusion havin fun doing illusion with
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and a forword by black stone jr
BP-had to edit your post as it had a lot of info not relevant to this
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text b2 stealth bomber cool stage illusionist magician lance burton
uses lazy susan tuntable likecool illuionist stage magician uses to
mae staue of liberty vanish and reappear at nite time but lance proved
you are able to use same idea principal to do in day time ideas too:)
way to think lance:)
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its the same idea as the Staue of LIBERY Vanish and the
Masked Magician Valintino Tank Vanish! they move to a nother
location that looks like the same area you just saw before they
closed
the 2 door shields but if you dont look at Lance Burton
and just look at the platform he is on you are able to see
camera movment and also scens it was at the Top SECRET Base
in Nevada Desert there was squarelines on the tarmac run way
in broad day light and th white corvete CAR of LANCES also there
but after the vanish B2 Stealth Bomber was Gone! but so was
the square strips on the tarmac run way and also as the camera
pans over lance and over the top of platform shelid over to he far
right of your tv Screen you are able to see the Very TIP of the
Wing OF the B2 sTEALTH bomber so the empty space
with now B2 bOMBER and no square lines on run way plus the
miltary men and woman just move and trucks also as the 2 door sields
close they moved over to theemty area that looks the same place
where the B2 bomber once sat and plus have a duplicate White Corvete
there for Lance to drive around in the Emty space to show that the
Stealth Jet its really gone:) no mirrors or realistick card board
photos there ps. on his on THe ROAD SPECIAL when he made his
Tour Bus apeppear Magically in the Nevada Desert he used that idea
like Franz Harry with realtistic card board photos of Back Ground
Scenry.
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((tanks KC andpae:)))
on the same idea like the cool fox tv channe of all 6 cool stage
illusion ideas tv special seris cal breaking the magicians cod
magician biggest secrets
and the 5 special aid he is a pro and he will be back andstreet masked
magician showing how close up stuff is done
and abc secrets and abc more secrets reaveled by
william ponstones many cool info how to books
big secrets, biggersecrets, biggest secrets
and two masked magicians showed thin model sawing and one way to float
a lady on board
and on how they do that cool franz harary shoed how to make a mini
yellow sumarine appear on stage
and robert gullup shoed how to do escapes plus another esacpe artise i
forget his nae had his own tv special showng how he did all of his
escape stunt ideas:))
bac too secrets of wreslering reaveled on NBC the same guy on fox for
masked magician helped on NBC FOR WRESLING SECRETS REAVELED
they had masked wreslers explaing in good deaail how its all done
PS FOLKS LIKE COOL CHRISTIAN WRESLER /TV STAR said on the christian tv
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bill page <***@msn.com> has sent you the following web
link:
hmm i thought the title was gonna be the christian movie called
time machine oops just remmbered its called
time changer
with actor that plays on tv seris called love boat
captain stubing:)
he invents a time machine
and needs t send a nother guy who will right the wrongs doings to know
foul langauge then after thats done when he tryies to send ingjames
bible into a certain ime in the future it wont work hetries again and
again and again it lets you reailze that time doesnt exzest in those
time zones areas
it must mean the rapture has taken place
Bill-had to edit a long post but left the above that is rlevant to
discussion
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Effect: Magi goes into the audience and finds any spec or let's the
audience do so. (Free choice) They get someone taller than them
though. Both the magi and spec come back on stage and the magi tells
the spec he/she is about to help with an experiment. Magi tells the
spec that they are about to be the first person to feel an Invisible
Touch. But of course the spec is told they are not aloud to see it
(hence invisible). The magi blindfolds the spec and instructs him/her
to hold both their arms straight up as high as possible. Magi picks up
a sheet and steps behind the spec. The audience can see the magi is
shorter and standing behind the spec. The magi puts the sheet in front
of spec and reaches around with both hands to hold it. The magi then
pulls the sheet up but not high enough to where the specs hands and
part of their arms can't be seen. The magi then pulls the sheet back
down and is now in front of the spec. He/she asks the spec if they
felt anything. They say no and you say thank you and have them remove
the blindfold. The audience has just seen you melt right through the
spec. Magi thanks the spec for their help and they take their seat and
the magi takes the applause.
Method/Prep: The secret to this is real simple. You need a sheet that
is not see through and it needs to be about 6 to 6 1/2 feet tall and
about 4 feet wide. More if you need it. You need to sew a pvc pipe
into the top of the sheet. You need to get two magnets that hold
pretty well. Attach one to the right side of the pipe where you hold
it. You now need to buy a Third Hand Gimmick. If you don't know what
it is, it is a fake hand. Now attach the other magnet to the inside of
the third hand gimmick. Now get a simple piece of dark black fabric or
a regular blindfold like they have for sleeping. That's all the prep
needed. Simple huh.
Performance: Sometime during the show you put the third hand in your
pocket. When you are ready for this just make sure the stage hands get
the right sheet. Go into the audience and choose someone taller than
you, maybe 6 inches taller will do. Bring them back to the stage and
tell them about invisible touch. Bring out a blindfold and make sure
it is on right so they can't see. Put your hands in your pockets
(getting the gimmick on your hand) and ask the spec how many fingers
are you holding up. They should say none or I don't know unless they
can see. This is just a running joke for the quickest misdirection.
Now go and grab the sheet and let it unfold and show both sides. Ask
the spec to raise their arms straight up in the air and while they are
doing this, you will be holding the sheet in your right hand which has
the gimmick on it and by holding it here you have let the magnets
connect. Now go right up behind the spec. Reach around in front of
them with the sheet and take hold with your left hand as well. Now,
lift up the sheet and let go with the right hand. You are now going to
move around to the left of them and in to the front. Now reach back
with the right hand and move the sheet away quickly to the right. Take
the sheet in the right hand and roll it up around your arm a little
and toss it down with the gimmick in it. It will have appeared that
you melted through the spec. You ask the spec to now lower their arms
and take the blindfold off. You now ask them if they felt anything.
They should say no and you say me neither. You now thank them and have
them take their seat and you take your applause.
Afterthoughts: The third hand gimmick has so many uses. Mostly you see
it used for walking through a mirror, barb wire, and now people. You
can actually get a set of the right and left hand on ebay for about
$14 plus $5 for shipping. You can easily get a sheet from a thrift
shop or get your own fabric for around $5. And a piece of pvc for
about $2. Total this illusion should cost around $25 or less depending
on where you shop. Hope you like it.
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Great melting through a person tutorial. This is something anyone can
build into their act for a small budget and some larger investment in
practice time of course
Would people see movement at the side of the sheet when you go round
them, or is there enough space? I didn't quite get that bit...
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Nice tut, got a video showing the effect? Sounds really nice
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QUOTE (MagicTammi @ Jun 26 2007, 07:19 PM)
Would people see movement at the side of the sheet when you go round
them, or is there enough space? I didn't quite get that bit...
OK Tammi great question! Now let me answer it to my best: 1.The
easiest way to explain this is, take your legs and spread them as far
apart as comfortable to you. Now get a sheet that fits that length
otherwise stick with the four to five foot.
2. If the sheet fits as I have explained and you practice it enough
there will be no movement when you go from the back to the front so
long as you watch your angles. This is for a stage so you should by
practicing know your sight lines. Close up is completely different,
you need to have more audience control.
Thanks Zaw12: This is meant for people who want to learn some new
illusions and have a tight budget or are just beginning. We will not
show our faces because of legal reasons and we feel it would be stupid
to wear a mask. Sorry no vids, but it shouldn't be that hard to figure
out. If you have a way of forming something you need help with into a
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Ah I think I get this now. They hold the sheet up in front of them,
but I think they would have to hold the sheet a little way off their
body, say 1.5 to 2 feet because you need to move between them and the
sheet without moving the sheet too much at the side?
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Tammi, I think you have it right. If you mean the magi for they, then
yes. When you hold the sheet in front of them you are wanting to wrap
your arms all the way around them. With someone not to monstrous you
should be able to hold the sheet about 1 1/2 feet or more in front of
them. It is plenty of room for you to go around. If you need anything
else PM me.
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Is the 3rd Hand the gimmick for Andrew Mayne's Gutbuster? I was just
on his site, and one of the versions says it requires a gimmick, or
maybe just a body shell...
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No the 3rd hand gimmick is not used for Gutbuster.
I think somewhere else on the site if you do a search you should find
something on the Gutbuster though. I would tell you more but I do not
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see this thread for the exact same effect, only it's walking through a
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for third hand if your aint got one. Print out a high resolution photo
of your hand as it would appear in the illusion. Then cut it out and
stick it to the dowel.
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House has an idea there... for stage, even a crude hand carved out of
balsa wood would work....
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Guest (20 of 35) Re: Here's another good reveal...walking thru glass.
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Could anyone reveal the secret of how to post to Bill Page instead of
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What are you trying to say? I am so lost in all of that. Speak in
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tankz a zillion! ((jinx)
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Jan 29, 2008 7:27 PM Report Abuse
Your guess is good as any of us. I went blind a long time ago!
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At least he sticks to one thread.
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((tanks for caring folks))
magically your friendly nighbor hood spider man
cool tanks ((pae)
yep cool stage illusionist doug henning used this idea to magically
appear on stage
shadow wize down ward like cool stage illusionist david seth kot kin
copperfield does
doug henning even let tony randall appear shadow wize down on elevador
stage illusion
but copperfield idea to have it hung in the air idea
and there been one time at chrysler hall where dc elvador was on floor
too and fat cool boy on stage actavated the elevador as dc slowly
shadowized down ward the fat cool kif walked slowly tawrd the far
right side stage curtain but to him its his far left side on stage and
by the time everyones focused on cool stage illusionist copperfields
appearnce in shadow wize down ward move ment then door open there
copperfield! as dc takes a bow!
ps everyone forgot about the(( cool fat kid) but not me
hmm i wounder if thats copperfileds son?
or one of the many snow boys?
where dc makes it snow on stage and in the audience and gets on top of
thin table top platform and raises sheet up to cover him self for a
few secounds and lighting change and sheet drops to show copperfild is
now a coolfat kid playing in the snow
then dc pops up on thin table magically while fat cool snow boy kid
walks off stage to our far left side of stage idea at chrysler hall in
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ps i saw how dc switch places with snow boy
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That is kind of interesting and funny at the same time, Bill!
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Bill, I see nothing wrong with your posts. You don't bash...you just
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