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This article is about the miracle of walking on water. For the
details
of how some animals do walk on water, see Animal locomotion on the
surface layer of water.
For any song, album or film titled 'Walk on Water', see Walk on
Water.

Jesus takes Peter who failed to walk on water. (This image actually
depicts the incident in John's Gospel when Peter splashes through the
water to fall at the Risen Lord's feet and ask forgiveness.) Lluís
Borrassà, 1411 (Terrassa).Walking on water is one of the miracles
that
the Gospels attribute to Jesus. An account of the miracle appears in
the Gospels of John (John 6:16-21), of Matthew[1] and of Mark [2].
According to the Biblical narrative, Jesus sent the disciples in a
boat, ahead of him, to Bethsaida, but when they were half way across
the lake, Jesus walked over the lake and met them. The narrative
states that the disciples were scared at first, thinking it was a
ghost, but when Jesus revealed himself and got into the boat, they
calmed down. According to Matthew, Peter was also able to walk on
water, following Jesus's example[3].


Mark and John don't report this detail in their gospels, while at the
same time they don't deny it.


Walking on water has subsequently become a colloquialism used when a
seemingly impossible task is actually being managed.


In ancient Greek Mythology the giant hunter and son of the gods Orion
walked on water. Hindu, Buddhist [4], and Greek [5] traditions have
stories about characters walking on water.


An Egyptian story, told by another son named Bauefre, is set during
the reign of Khufu's father Sneferu. ... one of the girls loses an
amulet - ... The king laments this, and the chief lector folds aside
the water to allow the retrieval of the amulet, then folds the water
back. (This may be considered more closely equivalent to Moses's
Parting of the Red Sea than to the Walking on Water.)


Contents [hide]
1 Interpretive criticism
2 Contemporary Attempts
3 Cultural references and trivia
4 See also
5 Notes
6 References


[edit] Interpretive criticism


Walking on Water, by Ivan Aivazovsky (1888).In the second volume of A
Marginal Jew, subtitled Mentor, Message, and Miracles, John P. Meier
individually examines all the miracle stories in the gospels to
determine if, behind them, lay a historical kernel. He argues that
the
walking on water miracle is true theological narrative but not a
historical story. The oral tradition, he finds, is embedded with Old
Testament types (the declaration of Jesus 'I AM' is consonant with
the
early church view of him as Yahweh) and post-resurrection
perceptions.


In particular, the narrative of the story seems to fall into the
genre
of apocalyptic (which is not to say eschatological; apocalyptic is
here defined as a genre characterized by heavy symbolism and light-
dark contrasts). Jesus first herds the disciples into a boat and
casts
them off alone; he then goes up to a mountain to pray, promising them
he will meet them on the other side of the sea. The apostles have
difficulty reaching the other shore, but then Jesus appears and all
is
well. As in the resurrection accounts, the disciples see him as a
fish
before recognizing him. This is a metaphor, Meier asserts, for the
early post-Easter church. Jesus leaves his disciples in the ascension
while promising a return, but occasionally visits them in mid-journey
to sustain them (through the Eucharist). As with all apocalyptic
literature, it is meant to comfort a beleaguered community.


[edit] Contemporary Attempts
In August 2006 an African Evangelist Franck Kabele drowned trying to
emulate Jesus near Libreville, Gabon.


[edit] Cultural references and trivia


In this still image, the two dogs seem to walk above water.Besides
biblical references, the ability to walk on water is often present in
fiction in a manner designed to draw high degrees of awe.


In the music video for "Smokers Outside The Hospital Doors" by
Editors, appears a girl that walks on water.
In the film Ever After, actor Patrick Godfrey in the role of Leonardo
da Vinci walks on water in clog-like shoes, startling Cinderella
character Danielle De Barbarac (Drew Barrymore) as she is swimming.
In comic book fiction, the Flash runs at high speeds sufficient to
keep afloat on water. This is also parodied by Dash of the
Incredibles. Rev Runner of the Loonatics adaptation by Warner
Brothers
has also done this, as a parody of the Flash.
In the manga and anime Naruto, advanced ninja characters use chakra
control in the feet to be able to stand, run on, and bear weight on
water.
In episode 23 of the anime Sonic X, Sonic is able to run fast enough
to clear the polluted mud out of a shallow Chao stream, creating a
vortex which parts the waters like the eye of a storm. In episode 24
when driven berserk by a computer chip in his ear, after falling into
a deep lake, he is able to ascend to the top, running across the
water
to land, bringing a fish with him. This is important because in the
first episode, he was going to drown in the bottom of a swimming pool
because he could not float or swim and could not go fast enough to
create an ascension vortex, meaning he must have improved or the chip
makes him faster than he is normally able (though probably not to the
levels he can attain using a power ring or chaos emerald. He cannot
do
this in the games or movie.
In the movie Remo Williams the master runs across the water at the
end
of the movie.
In the Chinese wuxia martial arts genre, some warriors may be able to
fly or jump with the aid of the water's surface. This is never
explained by other than the depth of their training.
In the 1980's, André Kole, the innovative illusionist who tours on
behalf of Campus Crusade for Christ, created the illusion of walking
(actually standing) on water live on stage. The presentation involved
a large, open, transparent tank partly full of water. Stirring the
water randomly with a stick showed it to be free of invisible
supports. Kole stepped into the tank, where he was seemingly
supported
on the surface of the water, continuing to stir the water between and
around his feet. As more water poured into the tank, Kole rose about
14" with the rising water level. Kole devised and presented this
illusion to demonstrate that even on a small scale, apparatus and
staging was required that could not have existed in Christ's time.
Therefore, by Kole's logic, Christ's miracle was genuine.
In the television show Criss Angel Mindfreak, the title magician
performed an illusion in which he walked across the full length of a
swimming pool in front of an audience, with spectators actually
swimming around and under him (and even between his legs; he also
kicked off his shoes midway) during the stunt. However, according to
eyewitnesses, he was walking on transparent perspex struts; also no
one is seen swimming behind or in front of him, or where he had
previously placed his feet.
Two water striders mate on the surface.Rumor has it, On March 18,
2007, YouTube magician Anthony Bass walked on the water of the
Lewisville Lake in Little Elm, Texas as a publicity stunt and
promotion of his abilities.
In the video game Final Fantasy X the summoner (Yuna) walks on water
in Kilika while she performs the sending.
In the conclusion to the comic Watchmen, Dr. Manhattan walks on
water,
for dramatic effect.
Towards the end of the film The Truman Show, Truman appears to walk
on
water at the edge of the world created for him.
The video for the song "Magic" by The Cars featured lead singer Ric
Ocasek walking on water in a swimming pool.
In the movie Bruce Almighty, both Bruce and God walk on water. The
shots were created by visual effects experts Bill Taylor, ASC and
David Williams II.
The final shot in the film "Being There" has 'the gardener' (Peter
Sellers) walk out onto the surface of a lake.
The theme song for the video game Kingdom Hearts, Simple and Clean by
Utada Hikaru uses the phrase "walking on water" after asking how to
prove she loves the person she is singing to.
Video game cheats that let the user walk on water is known as "Jesus
Mode"
Walk On Water is a song by the dance band Milk Inc
Ryu Hayabusa from the Ninja Gaiden series can run on water
Walk on Water is an Israeli film released in 2004 directed by Eytan
Fox.
In the movie Platoon, Barnes derisively refers to Elias as "a water-
walker".
In the 1996 film The Craft, Nancy walks on water the morning after
the
girls invoke Manon on the beach.
The video game series The Elder Scrolls features a magical effect
called "Water Walking", which allow the player to walk on the surface
of water.
Virtual Villagers: A New Home, The Golden Child Can Walk On Water
The rock band Creedence Clearwater Revival recorded a single under
the
name "the Golliwogs" in 1966 called "Walking on the Water", in which
the narrator of the song sees a man walking on water toward him. They
also recorded this song once more in 1968 for their eponymous debut
album, although this version of the song was retitled "Walk on the
Water".


[edit] See also
Animal locomotion on the surface layer of water


[edit] Notes
Wikimedia Commons has media related to: Walk on the water
^ Matthew 14:22-33
^ Mark 6:45-52
^ Matthew 14:22-33
^ Walking On Water
^ The Mythology of the Constellations: Orion


[edit] References
This article does not cite any references or sources.
Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable
sources. Unverifiable material may be challenged and removed. (June
2007)


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Walking on water
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
Christianity portal
This article is about the miracle of walking on water. For the
details
of how some animals do walk on water, see Animal locomotion on the
surface layer of water.
For any song, album or film titled 'Walk on Water', see Walk on
Water.
Jesus takes Peter who failed to walk on water. (This image actually
depicts the incident in John's Gospel when Peter splashes through the
water to fall at the Risen Lord's feet and ask forgiveness.) Lluís
Borrassà, 1411 (Terrassa).Walking on water is one of the miracles
that
the Gospels attribute to Jesus. An account of the miracle appears in
the Gospels of John (John 6:16-21), of Matthew[1] and of Mark [2].
According to the Biblical narrative, Jesus sent the disciples in a
boat, ahead of him, to Bethsaida, but when they were half way across
the lake, Jesus walked over the lake and met them. The narrative
states that the disciples were scared at first, thinking it was a
ghost, but when Jesus revealed himself and got into the boat, they
calmed down. According to Matthew, Peter was also able to walk on
water, following Jesus's example[3].
Mark and John don't report this detail in their gospels, while at the
same time they don't deny it.
Walking on water has subsequently become a colloquialism used when a
seemingly impossible task is actually being managed.
In ancient Greek Mythology the giant hunter and son of the gods Orion
walked on water. Hindu, Buddhist [4], and Greek [5] traditions have
stories about characters walking on water.
An Egyptian story, told by another son named Bauefre, is set during
the reign of Khufu's father Sneferu. ... one of the girls loses an
amulet - ... The king laments this, and the chief lector folds aside
the water to allow the retrieval of the amulet, then folds the water
back. (This may be considered more closely equivalent to Moses's
Parting of the Red Sea than to the Walking on Water.)
Contents [hide]
1 Interpretive criticism
2 Contemporary Attempts
3 Cultural references and trivia
4 See also
5 Notes
6 References
[edit] Interpretive criticism
Walking on Water, by Ivan Aivazovsky (1888).In the second volume of A
Marginal Jew, subtitled Mentor, Message, and Miracles, John P. Meier
individually examines all the miracle stories in the gospels to
determine if, behind them, lay a historical kernel. He argues that
the
walking on water miracle is true theological narrative but not a
historical story. The oral tradition, he finds, is embedded with Old
Testament types (the declaration of Jesus 'I AM' is consonant with
the
early church view of him as Yahweh) and post-resurrection
perceptions.
In particular, the narrative of the story seems to fall into the
genre
of apocalyptic (which is not to say eschatological; apocalyptic is
here defined as a genre characterized by heavy symbolism and light-
dark contrasts). Jesus first herds the disciples into a boat and
casts
them off alone; he then goes up to a mountain to pray, promising them
he will meet them on the other side of the sea. The apostles have
difficulty reaching the other shore, but then Jesus appears and all
is
well. As in the resurrection accounts, the disciples see him as a
fish
before recognizing him. This is a metaphor, Meier asserts, for the
early post-Easter church. Jesus leaves his disciples in the ascension
while promising a return, but occasionally visits them in mid-journey
to sustain them (through the Eucharist). As with all apocalyptic
literature, it is meant to comfort a beleaguered community.
[edit] Contemporary Attempts
In August 2006 an African Evangelist Franck Kabele drowned trying to
emulate Jesus near Libreville, Gabon.
[edit] Cultural references and trivia
In this still image, the two dogs seem to walk above water.Besides
biblical references, the ability to walk on water is often present in
fiction in a manner designed to draw high degrees of awe.
In the music video for "Smokers Outside The Hospital Doors" by
Editors, appears a girl that walks on water.
In the film Ever After, actor Patrick Godfrey in the role of Leonardo
da Vinci walks on water in clog-like shoes, startling Cinderella
character Danielle De Barbarac (Drew Barrymore) as she is swimming.
In comic book fiction, the Flash runs at high speeds sufficient to
keep afloat on water. This is also parodied by Dash of the
Incredibles. Rev Runner of the Loonatics adaptation by Warner
Brothers
has also done this, as a parody of the Flash.
In the manga and anime Naruto, advanced ninja characters use chakra
control in the feet to be able to stand, run on, and bear weight on
water.
In episode 23 of the anime Sonic X, Sonic is able to run fast enough
to clear the polluted mud out of a shallow Chao stream, creating a
vortex which parts the waters like the eye of a storm. In episode 24
when driven berserk by a computer chip in his ear, after falling into
a deep lake, he is able to ascend to the top, running across the
water
to land, bringing a fish with him. This is important because in the
first episode, he was going to drown in the bottom of a swimming pool
because he could not float or swim and could not go fast enough to
create an ascension vortex, meaning he must have improved or the chip
makes him faster than he is normally able (though probably not to the
levels he can attain using a power ring or chaos emerald. He cannot
do
this in the games or movie.
In the movie Remo Williams the master runs across the water at the
end
of the movie.
In the Chinese wuxia martial arts genre, some warriors may be able to
fly or jump with the aid of the water's surface. This is never
explained by other than the depth of their training.
In the 1980's, André Kole, the innovative illusionist who tours on
behalf of Campus Crusade for Christ, created the illusion of walking
(actually standing) on water live on stage. The presentation involved
a large, open, transparent tank partly full of water. Stirring the
water randomly with a stick showed it to be free of invisible
supports. Kole stepped into the tank, where he was seemingly
supported
on the surface of the water, continuing to stir the water between and
around his feet. As more water poured into the tank, Kole rose about
14" with the rising water level. Kole devised and presented this
illusion to demonstrate that even on a small scale, apparatus and
staging was required that could not have existed in Christ's time.
Therefore, by Kole's logic, Christ's miracle was genuine.
In the television show Criss Angel Mindfreak, the title magician
performed an illusion in which he walked across the full length of a
swimming pool in front of an audience, with spectators actually
swimming around and under him (and even between his legs; he also
kicked off his shoes midway) during the stunt. However, according to
eyewitnesses, he was walking on transparent perspex struts; also no
one is seen swimming behind or in front of him, or where he had
previously placed his feet.
Two water striders mate on the surface.Rumor has it, On March 18,
2007, YouTube magician Anthony Bass walked on the water of the
Lewisville Lake in Little Elm, Texas as a publicity stunt and
promotion of his abilities.
In the video game Final Fantasy X the summoner (Yuna) walks on water
in Kilika while she performs the sending.
In the conclusion to the comic Watchmen, Dr. Manhattan walks on
water,
for dramatic effect.
Towards the end of the film The Truman Show, Truman appears to walk
on
water at the edge of the world created for him.
The video for the song "Magic" by The Cars featured lead singer Ric
Ocasek walking on water in a swimming pool.
In the movie Bruce Almighty, both Bruce and God walk on water. The
shots were created by visual effects experts Bill Taylor, ASC and
David Williams II.
The final shot in the film "Being There" has 'the gardener' (Peter
Sellers) walk out onto the surface of a lake.
The theme song for the video game Kingdom Hearts, Simple and Clean by
Utada Hikaru uses the phrase "walking on water" after asking how to
prove she loves the person she is singing to.
Video game cheats that let the user walk on water is known as "Jesus
Mode"
Walk On Water is a song by the dance band Milk Inc
Ryu Hayabusa from the Ninja Gaiden series can run on water
Walk on Water is an Israeli film released in 2004 directed by Eytan
Fox.
In the movie Platoon, Barnes derisively refers to Elias as "a water-
walker".
In the 1996 film The Craft, Nancy walks on water the morning after
the
girls invoke Manon on the beach.
The video game series The Elder Scrolls features a magical effect
called "Water Walking", which allow the player to walk on the surface
of water.
Virtual Villagers: A New Home, The Golden Child Can Walk On Water
The rock band Creedence Clearwater Revival recorded a single under
the
name "the Golliwogs" in 1966 called "Walking on the Water", in which
the narrator of the song sees a man walking on water toward him. They
also recorded this song once more in 1968 for their eponymous debut
album, although this version of the song was retitled "Walk on the
Water".
[edit] See also
Animal locomotion on the surface layer of water
[edit] Notes
Wikimedia Commons has media related to: Walk on the water
^ Matthew 14:22-33
^ Mark 6:45-52
^ Matthew 14:22-33
^ Walking On Water
^ The Mythology of the Constellations: Orion
[edit] References
This article does not cite any references or sources.
Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable
sources. Unverifiable material may be challenged and removed. (June
2007)
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walking_on_water"
Categories: Biblical phrases | Christian miracle narrative | Jesus |
Metaphors | Miracles attributed to Jesus | Fictional superhuman
features or abilities | Walking
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impials on andre kole Christian illusion sword impial ilusion he gave Jewish Christian illusionist david seth kotkin copperfield to a song called slient running by mike and the mechinicks he later let him the ilusionst be impialed on andre kole Christian illusion sword to the song by phil collins i dont care any more can you make a video showing how to solve enero rubikcs cube the fastest cause my best time in the year 1980s in main church of our cool goodnewsbaptist.org is one minute and twlev secounds and now 2011 to 2017 folks teens juniurs extc solve enero rubiks cube in so many secounds even steven brundage illusionist on ameras got talent and let david seth kotkin Christian illusionist Jewish copperfield mix erno rubics cube up and give a time to solve erno rubiks cube he said 15 secounds and steven brundage did just that plus he did it the new illusion way instead of Christian illusionist doug henning and tricky ricky bus minisyer illusionist and others in 1980s 1990s even me ususing erno rubikc cube called in illusion magic shops the enchanted cube ps i prayed to Jesus that me or somone let copperfield miox enero rubiks cube up and then they solve it cool steven brundage was the golden key to anseer my prayers to let copperfield mixe cube and let somone solve it ps i pray to Jesus that copperfield will learn how to solve it and add ideas for televsion specials on CBS he talks about comming back to yelevsion again hes got alot of new illusions thats never been seen on televsion before jay sankey reveales even his signature illusions like sign card pulled through a balloon and left with a deck of cards or soo in the balloon i have the orginal of jay sankey performing and showing how its done and i was praying to Jesus he would reveal it when hes older on youtube and cool now i have both worlds and everyone else that copperfeld usedand i revealed more info that cool valentino Christian illusionist did not go in detail about way before even youtube was created look in alt.magic.secrets in google.com search engines also in magiccafe cool stuff also and also secrets of magic forum ps im thankful To Jesus that all medea is around now even youtube videos it helps everyone and me out to share freely the Knowledge Jesus Christ Lord Saviour God gives us freely to use to give back freely he then gives us more talents freely to give to others freely in Christ always chubby billpage illusionist magician in fun ps hers other youtube video channels that share freely SankeyMagic howtoDisturbReality nadjib haffaf FernandoP1 MagicMurray nadjib haffaf herbert l becker all the secrets of magic revealed 1980 cbs mystery magician steve cohen hosted jasper maskyn the war illusionist and so did franz hararay pythonify on the war illusionist co producer jewish Christian illusionist david seth kotkin copperfield helped in now you see me movie now you see me 2 movie and in the works a now you see me 3 movie he and his cool illusion crew helps also even in burt wonderstone movie and copperfield voiced in cartoon a nome and hes made fiction books with other fiction cool writers and made a cd called david copperfield music that cool rand woodbury Christian illusionist mentions also and mitchell leary and the magic of reza and rjlacmagic and david drew duncan at ropeline suv and johnn black tiolman hauser ray haydad rocco Christian illusionist candy man and lance burton Christian illusionist LanceBurtonFan melinda the first lady of magic Christian illusionist Charlote and jonathen mastero the magnifcent pendragon Christian illusionist princesss tenko and andre kole Christian illusionist even on bill bixbie as the magician tv show and mark wilson helps everyone out even bill bixbie and hallended on tv show called blacks magic harry blackstine sr and jr helps also and doug henning criss angel david blaine yamato905 movie sleight april 7 2017 Bart Rockett Kden Bart Rockett and Brokelyn Rockett Kemi Rockett there mom ps Bart Kelly lookatthis9990 extc extc ps i putt this part but it vanished so im typing again before copperfield appears in the audience on douplicate harlry davidson moto cycle on a loong pole on top of square or retangle platform high up revving harly dvidson motocyle up all you see is empy space floor then a cool heavey guy wearing a green john deer hat on open up a two sided stage trap door with each trap door with half of a cicrle cut in them so when its closed on both sides flushed it looks like a sold circle hole so as the guy wearing johnn deer green hat on that has yellow symbol of a deer on it he the assistant heavey guy that gets out of the audience seat not to far from the empty floor space to open the two sided spring trap door so copperfield illusionist on douplicate motorcycle can rise up a on a hauldrawlick lift in metal pole with motor cycle and copperfield looks at me like high:) you are not suposed to know im here at this momment in time 🙂 as hes then looks at the stage to watch look alike about to vanish on harly davidson motorcycle in mid air so i looked same way then waited for spot lights to aim in the audience then everyones looking now in that direction to see copperfield on a very high pole plateform on harly davidson motorcycle plus music and siren sounds hide sound of hauldrawrlic lift sound going on and lights spinning like policeman lights flashing aroundand around 🙂 and david drew duncan ropelin suv said did you yeah i saw same info dave and tommy story said what you and dave talking about? we said we will explaine in your car tommy story http://wwww.youtube.com/FernandoP1/videos http://www.youtube.com/billpage/videos http://www.youtube.com/ropeline/videos look up in google.com look up alt.magic.secrets look up david copperfield vanishing on harley davidson motorcycle in mid air ps i handed him photos of me levatating my sister stacey elesbeth smith and him doing franz harary pythonify slicer illusion he said Thanks:) i said your cool welcome:) and he sign his auto grapgh on his cool copperfield program DC plus letter with information how you get audience apluse and david drew duncan oput his dad house adress that way he can mail us info if hes able to plus i was as a teen boy on his birthda fan mail and his mom and dad helped in the fan mail how cool is that 🙂 and gary e bartlet wrote us saying david did read your letter and ask i get back you you and he mention get the books all by drael fistkie the trickbrain showmanship for magicians and magic by misdirection and he gave magic shop adress to go to also:) and many years moons later i saw gary e bartet commenting on facebook to valtino the masked magician i type info i just let you all know and he liked my comment and we are friends on facebook now and david copperfield jeff macbride and lance burton franz harary charlote pendragon greg bordon abbots magic company david baine howard chappel bob scofield through email and alhastings on youtube rjlacmagic youtube youtube the magic of reza and facebook and instant messaging and facebook adam allred david drew duncan facebook youtube.com/ropeline and other cool illusionist even penn&teller on facebook and youtube video channels even penn jelliet youtube video channel called penn points valtino the masked magician email instsant messaging twitter and youtube video channell mitchell leary if hes still around? hes all over the place:)http://www.youtube.com/FernandoP1 http://www.youtube.com/howtoDisturbReality http://www.youtube.com/MagicMurray/videos http://www.youtube.com/SankeyMagic/videos Andre Kole Christian illusionist andrekole.org magictimes.com linkingpage.com http://www.youtube.com/yamato905/videos http://www.youtube.com/billpage/videos http://www.youtube.com/alhastings/videos http://www.youtube.com/rjlacmagic/videos http://www.google.com look up alt.magic.secrets look up secrets of magic forum and on video search engines look up magiccafe in google search engines http://www.youtube.com/WilliamMarcelpage/videos http://www.youtube.com/soildier2010/videos christapher heart illusionist doubles in copperfields illusionist idea switch saroo props even first part of the walking through the great wall of China special on CBS illusion special event as copperfield says illusion special events ps other cool illusionist friends let me know loud sounds help mask or hide illusions secrets on larger scales like levatation in mid air or lear jet or train out the back with lighting schemes extc yep rjlacmagic those videos i dubbed for you from michael ammar and paul gertner steel and silver video voulmes michael ammar thread work videos kevin james floating rose videos and copperfield tornado of fire God Bless everyone in Christ allways chubby billpage illusionist magician in fun:) TheWebOfTheSpider knappitschgmxat AFBMISSIONS.ORG goodnewsjail.org
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